Anyone switched from 6.0 PSD to 6.2?
#31
It's what we live in most of the year Our present 2V V10 has done a fine job for the last 10 years with this trailer and the trailer that weighed just as much before this one. We are planning on having just as much fun with our new truck we just hope it has as many trouble free years and miles as the one we have now.
Denny
Denny
Very nice. I'd love to see pics of the trailer.
#33
Our truck on order is a F350 SC 2X4 DRW 4.30 gears 6.2 Lariat with Lariat interior package, Navigation System, spray in box liner and up lifter switches. The order conformation listed it as $47340 we bought it for $35500 out the door with our present truck as a trade and rebates. The Lariat and Lariat trim package is very well equipped truck. If you get a F350 the 4X4 is $3100 and CC is another $2000 list.
Denny
Denny
#34
Well here is my take on the 4.30 diffy. I have one in an F 250 and tow a 11.5K fifth wheel. We do just fine.
However, I think the 4.30 is low when I am cruising down the interstate empty.
So if I would have gotten the 3.73 I could have run in 5th gear at a smidge within the same R's as the 4.30 in 6th gear.
If I had it to do over again I personally would be running with the 3.73 in 5th gear when I am towing in the winter.
Give that some thought. In the lower gears such as 1 and 2 for that thing has garden tractor gears in it anyway.
However, I think the 4.30 is low when I am cruising down the interstate empty.
So if I would have gotten the 3.73 I could have run in 5th gear at a smidge within the same R's as the 4.30 in 6th gear.
If I had it to do over again I personally would be running with the 3.73 in 5th gear when I am towing in the winter.
Give that some thought. In the lower gears such as 1 and 2 for that thing has garden tractor gears in it anyway.
#35
After 25+ years of diesel ownership, I finally succumbed to the gas gods approximately 2 months ago with no regrets, actually relieved that all the hand ringing/anguish of the gas vs. diesel is finally over (at least in my eye). Back in the day, if you wanted to pull any type of load, the gas side had nothing, nada. zilch. You could get a big block with absolutely worthless hp/torque #'s or diesel- easy enough, you got the diesel and you were done. Not rocket science, just good solid economics, the oil burner was king.
Now, let's get to present day, the mystique of diesel is still there, but the economics is not. We no longer live with cheap diesel, the pollution control is stifling, plus there's a hefty premium to pay for the 6.7. When one starts to add this all up the line isn't as clear cut as it used to be. As the new gas engines have improved radically w/regard to mpg & torque, maintenance, longevity the diesels have't fared as well, unfortunately. This is all coming from someone that has been a loyal member of diesel power; possibly somewhat self-serving, but at the end of the day, like I said before, no regrets.
Absolutely the 6.7 has a purpose (and it does it well), just at what cost. Resale is another factor to consider, my 7.3's were a snap to sell, but the 6.0 not so. Granted the 6.2 has only been around for a few years as well as the 6.7, it's not like people are running to the dealer to scoop up that 6.7 because it might not be there tomorrow....
Now, let's get to present day, the mystique of diesel is still there, but the economics is not. We no longer live with cheap diesel, the pollution control is stifling, plus there's a hefty premium to pay for the 6.7. When one starts to add this all up the line isn't as clear cut as it used to be. As the new gas engines have improved radically w/regard to mpg & torque, maintenance, longevity the diesels have't fared as well, unfortunately. This is all coming from someone that has been a loyal member of diesel power; possibly somewhat self-serving, but at the end of the day, like I said before, no regrets.
Absolutely the 6.7 has a purpose (and it does it well), just at what cost. Resale is another factor to consider, my 7.3's were a snap to sell, but the 6.0 not so. Granted the 6.2 has only been around for a few years as well as the 6.7, it's not like people are running to the dealer to scoop up that 6.7 because it might not be there tomorrow....
#36
Well here is my take on the 4.30 diffy. I have one in an F 250 and tow a 11.5K fifth wheel. We do just fine.
However, I think the 4.30 is low when I am cruising down the interstate empty.
So if I would have gotten the 3.73 I could have run in 5th gear at a smidge within the same R's as the 4.30 in 6th gear.
However, I think the 4.30 is low when I am cruising down the interstate empty.
So if I would have gotten the 3.73 I could have run in 5th gear at a smidge within the same R's as the 4.30 in 6th gear.
Yep, exactly. THIS is why I bought the 3.73.... blow down the highway unloaded getting 15+ mpg........ or when you tow, lock out 6th gear, and pull dang near anything. Little to no mpg overall difference, plenty of power. It is all about the balance. For mix of usage?.....3.73 = Perfect.
#37
#38
My 6.0 has 3.73's,I can't imagine a gasser with 3.73's.My truck with 33x12.50 MT Toyo's tires and 20's with a bobcat on it's back is alot slower off the line compared to having my stock tires on.What I'm getting at is this is what I would have if I bought a 6.2.So for me 4.30's would be for me.I kinda think it just depends on your situation if you choose 3.73's or 4.30's.
#39
One thing to keep in mind is that the new models are mated to a six speed transmission, giving you an extra gear. IIRC, to get 20" rims, Ford forces you to order the 4:30 gears (n/c) but I was able to order the 275/70x18 tire package and keep the 3:73. The 275's are effectively a 33" tires and the stock 20's were only about a 3/4" taller. Looks like the higher gear goes into affect when tires go above 33"'.
I need to move my Bobcat next week and will have a direct comparison from my 07 6 liter vs. the 6.2. Both have exhaust work done with just a stock tune.
I need to move my Bobcat next week and will have a direct comparison from my 07 6 liter vs. the 6.2. Both have exhaust work done with just a stock tune.
#40
One thing to keep in mind is that the new models are mated to a six speed transmission, giving you an extra gear. IIRC, to get 20" rims, Ford forces you to order the 4:30 gears (n/c) but I was able to order the 275/70x18 tire package and keep the 3:73. The 275's are effectively a 33" tires and the stock 20's were only about a 3/4" taller. Looks like the higher gear goes into affect when tires go above 33"'.
I need to move my Bobcat next week and will have a direct comparison from my 07 6 liter vs. the 6.2. Both have exhaust work done with just a stock tune.
I need to move my Bobcat next week and will have a direct comparison from my 07 6 liter vs. the 6.2. Both have exhaust work done with just a stock tune.
I'd like to hear your comparison of the two.
#42
After 25+ years of diesel ownership, I finally succumbed to the gas gods approximately 2 months ago with no regrets, actually relieved that all the hand ringing/anguish of the gas vs. diesel is finally over (at least in my eye). Back in the day, if you wanted to pull any type of load, the gas side had nothing, nada. zilch. You could get a big block with absolutely worthless hp/torque #'s or diesel- easy enough, you got the diesel and you were done. Not rocket science, just good solid economics, the oil burner was king.
Now, let's get to present day, the mystique of diesel is still there, but the economics is not. We no longer live with cheap diesel, the pollution control is stifling, plus there's a hefty premium to pay for the 6.7. When one starts to add this all up the line isn't as clear cut as it used to be. As the new gas engines have improved radically w/regard to mpg & torque, maintenance, longevity the diesels have't fared as well, unfortunately. This is all coming from someone that has been a loyal member of diesel power; possibly somewhat self-serving, but at the end of the day, like I said before, no regrets.
Absolutely the 6.7 has a purpose (and it does it well), just at what cost. Resale is another factor to consider, my 7.3's were a snap to sell, but the 6.0 not so. Granted the 6.2 has only been around for a few years as well as the 6.7, it's not like people are running to the dealer to scoop up that 6.7 because it might not be there tomorrow....
Now, let's get to present day, the mystique of diesel is still there, but the economics is not. We no longer live with cheap diesel, the pollution control is stifling, plus there's a hefty premium to pay for the 6.7. When one starts to add this all up the line isn't as clear cut as it used to be. As the new gas engines have improved radically w/regard to mpg & torque, maintenance, longevity the diesels have't fared as well, unfortunately. This is all coming from someone that has been a loyal member of diesel power; possibly somewhat self-serving, but at the end of the day, like I said before, no regrets.
Absolutely the 6.7 has a purpose (and it does it well), just at what cost. Resale is another factor to consider, my 7.3's were a snap to sell, but the 6.0 not so. Granted the 6.2 has only been around for a few years as well as the 6.7, it's not like people are running to the dealer to scoop up that 6.7 because it might not be there tomorrow....
#43
One thing to keep in mind is that the new models are mated to a six speed transmission, giving you an extra gear. IIRC, to get 20" rims, Ford forces you to order the 4:30 gears (n/c) but I was able to order the 275/70x18 tire package and keep the 3:73. The 275's are effectively a 33" tires and the stock 20's were only about a 3/4" taller. Looks like the higher gear goes into affect when tires go above 33"'.
I need to move my Bobcat next week and will have a direct comparison from my 07 6 liter vs. the 6.2. Both have exhaust work done with just a stock tune.
I need to move my Bobcat next week and will have a direct comparison from my 07 6 liter vs. the 6.2. Both have exhaust work done with just a stock tune.
I looked this morning and it runs just over 1700 rpm at 70.
#44
Good catch there s2011, the bump up is from the base 3:55 TO 3:73 for the 20's, my bad. Classic case of CRS
#45
Going back to gas from diesel (Dodge) was not the leap I thought it would be. However, I knew what I was getting into......especially for dang near .50 cents less per gal at the pump. But for power..... Lotsa love for the 4.30s here on this forum, but I tell ya, the 3.73s do everything I want/need.
I got the 18 inch rims and plan on keeping the factory tire size, but I will say, if you are planning on upgrading to turning 35" tires with the 6.2, I would definitely go with the 4.30s
I got the 18 inch rims and plan on keeping the factory tire size, but I will say, if you are planning on upgrading to turning 35" tires with the 6.2, I would definitely go with the 4.30s
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