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Originally Posted by kermmydog
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What & where is the spout connector?
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The spout connector on mine is under the master cylinder. Kinda unnoticeable so you'll have to look. Its just a connector with a plug in it that disables the computer timing advance so you can adjust the timing (just like disconnecting the old vacuum advances you had to plug to set timing).
 
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Originally Posted by bdelmar2
That big notch isn't the timing mark.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-91-4-9-a.html

friend of mine and I went by the Notch...Gave the truck extra pep and no pinging...So maybe a REALLY wild stroke of luck?

Not going against the info you provided...Just saying...lol
 
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Originally Posted by kermmydog
Thanks John, for the heads up on the timing. One question on the OBDI system with a 302 do I set & check timing the same as on the older vehicles??
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I didn't disconnect any spout connector, I did do it with the engine fully warmed up.
 
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Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn
I didn't disconnect any spout connector, I did do it with the engine fully warmed up.
I know how to pull the spout connector, but the timing light I have to use is some fancy one with a **** and I don't know how to use it.
 
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Originally Posted by Intimnasc
The spout connector on mine is under the master cylinder. Kinda unnoticeable so you'll have to look. Its just a connector with a plug in it that disables the computer timing advance so you can adjust the timing (just like disconnecting the old vacuum advances you had to plug to set timing).
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I didn't disconnect any spout connector, I did do it with the engine fully warmed up.
John are you saying if the truck is fully warmed up the spout is inop? There is no need to disconnect the spout.
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I was going to do mine today, but the bolt is frozen up so I can't loosen it to turn the distributer. After I get everything cleaned up I'll try again, I finally got all the vacuum leaks fixed.
 
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Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn
I didn't disconnect any spout connector, I did do it with the engine fully warmed up.
You have to pull the SPOUT plug in order to disable the computer controlled advance. This is required regardless if the engine is warm, cold, frozen or otherwise running.

Failure to do so results in a severely retarded base timing.
 
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I did it while it was running....

Anyone got a pic of that so called spout connector? I'll leave it as I put it, it must be alot better than it was anyways, starts way easier, and runs smoother.
 
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Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn
I did it while it was running....

Anyone got a pic of that so called spout connector? I'll leave it as I put it, it must be alot better than it was anyways, starts way easier, and runs smoother.
In this post a link was posted that shows where it is. I guess it is on the left inner fenderwell kind of under the test box. At least on my 95 302.
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Originally Posted by IDIDieselJohn
I did it while it was running....

Anyone got a pic of that so called spout connector? I'll leave it as I put it, it must be alot better than it was anyways, starts way easier, and runs smoother.
Spout location on 1992 and up OBS trucks:

courtesy of oldfuelinjection.com
 
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Spout location on 1992 and up OBS trucks:

courtesy of oldfuelinjection.com
I found what I think is the spout connector. It has factory tape around it attaching it to the main harness. It has like a cap I don't see any wire on the other end. It has I believe two red wires going in it. Is that the spout connector? Do you just remove the end?

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Originally Posted by kermmydog
I found what I think is the spout connector. It has factory tape around it attaching it to the main harness. It has like a cap I don't see any wire on the other end. It has I believe two red wires going in it. Is that the spout connector? Do you just remove the end?

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Does it look something like this:


If so, yes that is what we are referring to.
 
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Yes that is it.
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Originally Posted by SideWinder4.9l
friend of mine and I went by the Notch...Gave the truck extra pep and no pinging...So maybe a REALLY wild stroke of luck?

Not going against the info you provided...Just saying...lol

Yes, that would indeed REALLY be a stroke of luck, twice even.

I orginally found that article because I thought the notch was the timing mark myself, but when I brought the engine up on tdc it wasn't anywhere near the notch, and my balancer didn't look like it had slipped.

At this point I was a little confused, so I did a search and the post I linked came up. After cleaning and sanding my dampner I found the scribe line, mine is much harder to see than the one in the photos. I marked it with a paint marker and set the mark to 0 degrees and my #1 piston was at tdc on compression stroke.

As it happens, I have my engine pulled to install new main and rod bearings, rear main seal, oil pump, cam, lifters, pushrods, timing gears, freeze plugs, and various gaskets, so I will check the timing mark again.

I already have the bearings, cam and valve train in so now will be an excellent time to verify the mark, although the piston being at tdc on the compression stroke with the scribe mark on zero is fairly certain.
 


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