<HR style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=1 itxtNodeId="323" sizset="34" sizcache="1"><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message --><!-- BEGIN TEMPLATE: ad_showthread_firstpost_start --><!-- END TEMPLATE: ad_showthread_firstpost_start -->hey guys i was just playin with the idea of swopping my c4 off my 302 in my 68 f100 with a manual trans.

my question, does anyone know what trans 3or4 speed toploader, or t5? what would be the easiest swop? via axle length mainly.

in 68 the 302 was not an option.

any info would be great

 

The 3spd was offered, so that would be "the easiest". A toploader 4spd isn't harder, just need to adjust the driveshaft length to fit the longer tailhousing.

The T5 was integeral bellhousing and needs a cable to actuate the clutch. Unless you buy a blowproof bellhousing that converts it(not cheap).

I converted three different bumps to 4spd(from auto and 3spd). It's a bolt in for the most part. Likey have to redrill the frame for crossmember when you slide it back(no biggie).

You'll need pedal assembly and Zbar/linkage. Plus the ball that screws into the side of the engine block for the Zbar. Are you running a late model 302 or pre 80's? The newer blocks do NOT have the hole in the side of the block for pivot ball, as they were all cable/hydraulic clutch by then.

 

Craiger...I've done this swap with a friend with a 70 Ford. Freighttrain pretty much nailed it. Not too hard..just swapping out parts. C.A.T.T here in Springfield will cut the driveshaft and balance it for you within a day

 

T5s are not integral on sbf, later mod motor units are I think. I have one from an 89 Mustang in my rpu. If you have a bell housing and flywheel/clutch, there are a lot of options. Ford pickups used a variety of different 3 speeds with overdrive, one of which is a cast iron toploader and they can be had for around $100. Another was the SROD and then the aluminum BW toloader with the top shift. The Mazda pickup 5 speed is integral bell and juice clutch, easy to find but I dislike them due to the high ratio of revers. Another option ids the heavy duty ZF 5 speed from the 3/4 and one ton pickups. I'm running one on my 300 and love it.
I've never seen a 68 with a 302 but numberdummy says they came out that year and I believe him.

 

The transmission swap is the easy part, clutch, clutch pedal, and all parts necessary will be much harder to pull off.

Sorry but I say damn a full grown Ford truck that can't shift it's own gears.



John

 

What's even sadder are full grown men who can't shift their own gears.

 

billy, Do you find yourself in that group? too sad.




John

 

I'm not sure what that comment meant, 4 out of 5 of my vehicles have three pedals. What I was referring to is men who can't drive a stickshift. I was fully capable of doing so by the age of 6.
I did have a big strapping lad of 20 working for me and when I put him on closing he kept "forgetting" to put the wrecker in at night. After the forth or fifth night I really got after him and it was then he admitted he couldn't drive a stick. Not only couldn't but was unable to and every effort to teach him was an exercise in futility. That's the kind of sad situation I was referring to.

 

IMO, a three speed is a turd.

 

 

lol

 

I wish my 3 spd C6 had one more on top.



John

 

Back to the OP's subject. It's a swap I have not done but I did remove the pedal assembly once, no simple task, seems like I remember pain association, maybe involved with the spring.