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97 f150 dash warning lights stay on
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97 f150 dash warning lights stay on
Just recently now the dash warning lights stay on or come back on shortly there after when the key is removed. i replaced the ignition switch. i can even leave the wiring to it disconnected with the same result. wjen the positive battery cable is removed and reconnected i can hear relay or relays clicking. i pulled all one at a time next to the master cylinder in the two boxes. same result. i pulled all relays in the fuse box in the cab one at a time. no change.
maybe related about a month ago the hvac fan stayed on. we had to turn that to the off position to remedy that. than it "fixed" itself.
starting points to check on this 4.6 with 361k on the clock 99% original would be appreciated.
thanks in advance
maybe related about a month ago the hvac fan stayed on. we had to turn that to the off position to remedy that. than it "fixed" itself.
starting points to check on this 4.6 with 361k on the clock 99% original would be appreciated.
thanks in advance
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I heard the firewall mounted solenoid making a very slight hum. so i cleaned the contacts on it. it very possibly is oem. reconnected it. that stood there looking for what squirrell type problem that i have. than the starter tried to engage like someone tapped the key. wtf. i could not possibly have imagination like that to make that up. i tap and it starts it minor humming again. i turn the motor on starts fine. and the starter tries to engage while running. turn it off. i'm lost with this one. gotta wait for wifey to go get a solenoid. just to throw money at it.
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That last post about the starter engaging by it'self indicates you have harness damage on the cable that goes to the igniton switch.
So it makes no difference when the wires go shorted to one another, it's the same as the ignition switch contacts closing.
The dash lamps are powered through the ignition switch as well as the start circuit.
At the present, there seem no shorts to ground or fuses would blow but there is shorts between leads.
Disconnect the battery until you find it or risk fire.
Good luck.
So it makes no difference when the wires go shorted to one another, it's the same as the ignition switch contacts closing.
The dash lamps are powered through the ignition switch as well as the start circuit.
At the present, there seem no shorts to ground or fuses would blow but there is shorts between leads.
Disconnect the battery until you find it or risk fire.
Good luck.
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That last post about the starter engaging by it'self indicates you have harness damage on the cable that goes to the igniton switch.
So it makes no difference when the wires go shorted to one another, it's the same as the ignition switch contacts closing.
The dash lamps are powered through the ignition switch as well as the start circuit.
At the present, there seem no shorts to ground or fuses would blow but there is shorts between leads.
Disconnect the battery until you find it or risk fire.
Good luck.
So it makes no difference when the wires go shorted to one another, it's the same as the ignition switch contacts closing.
The dash lamps are powered through the ignition switch as well as the start circuit.
At the present, there seem no shorts to ground or fuses would blow but there is shorts between leads.
Disconnect the battery until you find it or risk fire.
Good luck.
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Iwill try a better look when I can it will be untill Monday than however. I did pull the wires from the fire wall outside I seen no corrosion. Was not able to get a solenoid either as it got late. Wifey is now telling it does get wet in the drivers footwell
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Questions to consider to understand the symptoms.
Been raining much?
What direction does water tend to flow?
What is directly under the GEM module?
Where do the START and RUN circuits go to immediately from the ignition switch (see diagrams)?
Critter/vermin or other wiring damage would also be a small possibility, but LWS fits the overall set of provided symptoms.
Been raining much?
What direction does water tend to flow?
What is directly under the GEM module?
Where do the START and RUN circuits go to immediately from the ignition switch (see diagrams)?
Critter/vermin or other wiring damage would also be a small possibility, but LWS fits the overall set of provided symptoms.
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I replaced the gem yesterday. No random trying to start, or any other of my nuiances. So the starter must also run thre the gem. I just threw the oem solenoid back on. So I only replaced the gem. It showed water on it when pulled. The day before all this began I took it through a car wash. Usuaully I wash it myself.
So where is this leak most common? I can see water on the inside bottom edge of the window. When the trim is reoved on the drivers side.
So where is this leak most common? I can see water on the inside bottom edge of the window. When the trim is reoved on the drivers side.
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