2000 Mountaineer Starting/Battery Issue
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2000 Mountaineer Starting/Battery Issue
Hey guys. This is my first post on this forum. I have been searching but haven't found what I'm looking for. My problem is with a 2000 Mountaineer V8. Once a year I have to replace the battery after the first cold snap due to low cranking amps. I can simply hook up a battery charger and it will crank and fire. My second problem is most likely related. When I replace the battery it will kick off like a brand new car with no hesitation. After a few starts it takes 5-15 seconds for the engine to fire while the engine cranks normally, and that's how it operates all year. After having this problem again this year (I've owned it 4 years) I've realized the underlying problem is not the battery. Do any of you guys have any suggestions on where to start? All the connections are good, and it has a good ground. No lights or warnings, and when tested with a handheld scanner there are no error codes.
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Start by measuring the voltage at the battery with the engine running. It should be very steady around 14.4 volts. If it is substantially higher or varying alot, you have a voltage regulator or alternator issue. Sounds like your system could be overcharging the battery causing it to fail prematurely.
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Thanks for the responses, guys. I'll get with my father-in-law about checking the main circuits and the starter draw. He's an electrician and can help me with that. I checked the battery while running and it draws 14.67, occasionally jumping to 14.68. I put it on a deep cycle battery charger and charged the battery for about an hour, it's now fully charged and kicking off like new, for now. The battery is maintenance free, so there isn't an issue with the water. I'm gonna start running down the circuits between the battery, alternator, and ignition switch and see what I find. I read somewhere that the Air Idle Controller could have something to do with it. It may not be allowing the right mix for it to start correctly, but that doesn't sound right. If that was the problem it would have trouble firing regardless of the state of the battery.
Thanks again. You have given me some things to check and a direction to go.
Thanks again. You have given me some things to check and a direction to go.
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I got up this morning and it fired up. When my wife got in it started, idled, then died. Wouldn't start again and the fuel pump wouldn't come on. An hour later it fired up again and again and is running fine. I noticed when I took the key out of the ignition it continued to ding. Without putting the key back in I grabbed the keyguard, twisted it back a bit, and it quit dinging. I'm wondering if maybe the ignition switch is bad. I was convinced the fuel pump was bad earlier, but now I'm leaning toward an electrical short.
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I got up this morning and it fired up. When my wife got in it started, idled, then died. Wouldn't start again and the fuel pump wouldn't come on. An hour later it fired up again and again and is running fine. I noticed when I took the key out of the ignition it continued to ding. Without putting the key back in I grabbed the keyguard, twisted it back a bit, and it quit dinging. I'm wondering if maybe the ignition switch is bad. I was convinced the fuel pump was bad earlier, but now I'm leaning toward an electrical short.
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Thank you for your help guys. Yall are great. The story ends like this:
I replaced the fuel pump relay and it fired up like a new car. I drove it a half mile and the oil pressure gauge bottomed out, the lifters started rattling, but it never got hot (can't figure that one out). After getting it home I checked the oil with the dipstick and it was cool. I drained the oil, couldn't get the oil pan off, but I noticed the oil in the bottom of the pan was warm. Put new oil and filter in, still no pressure (surprise, surprise). I replaced the oil pressure sensor, the pressure came back, lifters got quiet, and it's running better than ever. I'm completely stumped. You guys have been great. Thank you.
I replaced the fuel pump relay and it fired up like a new car. I drove it a half mile and the oil pressure gauge bottomed out, the lifters started rattling, but it never got hot (can't figure that one out). After getting it home I checked the oil with the dipstick and it was cool. I drained the oil, couldn't get the oil pan off, but I noticed the oil in the bottom of the pan was warm. Put new oil and filter in, still no pressure (surprise, surprise). I replaced the oil pressure sensor, the pressure came back, lifters got quiet, and it's running better than ever. I'm completely stumped. You guys have been great. Thank you.
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