Has ANYONE ever seen a F250LD of this generation with an 8.8 that they have any reason to suspect is stock?

NumberDummy and I have a bit of a disagreement going, I don't think it was ever done factory. And I have never seen any F250 with an 8.8. His books apparently say that "ALL 1983/89 F250 L/D's came with 8.8's".

Every one I have ever seen has had a D60 or 10.25 semi floater 8 lug, what say you?

Wouldn't this mean that Ford made an 8 lug 8.8 or a F250LD in 5 lug? certainly never seen or even heard of either of those, you?

 

All the light duty F250s of that era I have seen have the Dana 60.3 Semi-float rear. Including mine.

 

Only seen the semi float sterlings and d60s around here

 

Could it be possible that the Light Duty F250's that would've gotten the 8.8'' rear ends were instead ordered with the regular 3/4 ton rears?

Maybe it's like all the other things with the trucks of this era. No radios were standard, but quite a few got radios. The 4.9 was standard, but quite a few came with 302, 351, 400, and 460's.

Perhaps when a "plain Jane" F250 L/D was ordered, it would've came with the 8.8''.

 

Wouldnt surprise me if they installed 8.8s from the factory though, being as strong as they are.

 

I knew that was coming....

 

There have been posts on here from owners of such a beast in the past, they are VERY rare, but are indeed out there.

 

Argument began after I said 8.8's were installed in 1983/89 F250 Light Duty's. Several times in the past when this topic has come up, the naysayers come out of the woodwork like termites.

OP of the thread where the argument took place has a 1983 F250 4WD L/D. AXLE code printed on Certification Label: 26 = Ford WDR 8.8 3.55-1 without Limited Slip w/a 4,500 lb. rear axle capacity.

But the 8.8 is no longer in place. OP posted a pic of the inspection cover, matches Dana 60, 61-1, 70. OP needs a pinion seal, the same seal (E7UZ-4676-A) was used in all three.

I listed the section/page in the 1980/89 Ford light truck parts catalog that shows the applications for 1983/89 F250 8.8's. Said ask Chris (ctubutis) to scan/post this page as he has the CD catalog.

Opossum called me a DUMMY, refuses to believe despite parts catalog ref, 26 axle decode. Has no Ford parts catalog, no Ford parts experience.

Admitted (when I asked where he was in 1983) that he was in grade school. 1975/85: I (born 9/9/1944) was the back (shop) partsguy at Crenshaw Motors Ford, passing out parts to mechanics.

I find it amazing that people with no Ford parts catalogs, no Ford parts experience, argue with those that do. Just because y'all haven't seen one, doesn't mean they didn't exist.

And...today, 23+ years after the fact, who knows what's been swapped around? Truck in question a typical example, came with an 8.8, now has a Dana 60, or a 61-1 or a 70, unknown since tag missing (so what else is new?).

 

To be 100% fair, just because it was in the parts catalog does not necessarily mean it was produced(for sale for the open market, it may have been made in the backlot but was never really for sale). Like the infamous diesel bronco II. I have never seen any F250 with an 8.8.

In this case, since the code was given, it's hard to refute that there was an 8.8 in this particular truck.

 

To be fair? Do you have the parts catalog/Ford parts experience? If not, you're in the same boat as Opossum and other naysayers...assuming without a shred of proof...what FoMoCo did or didn't do.

If you had the catalog, you would see the applications/parts lists. Two different versions were available: WDR without and WFL with Limited Slip.

I've seen them in person, passed out parts for them 1983/97. In the other thread, I said 8.8's have a built in flaw that FoMoCo knew all about, but ignored. Asked if anyone was aware what it was.

 

What is the flaw you are referring to ?

 

Yes, your parts book shows axle code 26 as being an 8.8, BUT, your parts book fails to tell you that axle code 26 in a TRUCK is a D60, while in a VAN it is an 8.8.

From these 84 Shop manuals:






Sure looks like the 8.8 was offered in an F250 in 84, but there is no axle code for it?:


Those parts books are NOT always right, I have seen it many times and argued it a few. The axle code listing linked to in the other thread is not correct, but also not incorrect. While the books are a good reference point most of the time, THEY ARE NOT 100% accurate.
I have run into this in many brands of trucks and equipment.

Personally I could care less what the flaw is in an 8.8, less than 8 lugs hasn't interested me in many many years. I would put money on side gears or crush sleeves though, they seem to gain alot of pinion slop very early in life.

 

I'm curious also. The 'c' clips? Seems many 8.8's have lasted quite a few miles. Also would this be an 8 lug 8.8?

I do not have the personal experience no, just pointing out that a parts manual does not necessarily mean it was actually produced. IH authorized the production of a Super H-TA in the 50's, but not a single one was actually sold.

You have a great memory if you can honestly remember every transaction you've dealt with. I've dealt with hundreds of transactions, can go through the motions, but ask me the details of one a week ago and i wouldn't be able to describe it.

If you read my final line I agreed with you.

EDIT: I typed this while 82F100SWB was posting, his post explains a lot. The parts book does seem to have a discrepency

 

Funny how these undisputed facts that somehow nobody else without your exact bible, woops I mean catalog or exact experience could possibly know keep changing.
Maybe you forget that in this new fangled internet thing we can look things up to, including EXACTLY what you said before;
So let's see you said IF it's a "LIGHT DUTY F250" then it has a 8.8. Meaning if it doesn't have an 8.8 then is't not a "LIGHT DUTY F250"

And 8.8s were installed in ALL "1983/89 F250 Light Duty's" meaning if it's a F250LD then it could ONLY have an 8.8 NOT the D60 the owner said it had, putting your precious catalog over the owners own eyes.
Yes I'm familiar with you calling me and I guess anyone that disagrees with YOUR interpretation of your precious catalog a termite, you did it in the other thread to.
How arrogant of you to assume that anyone who disagrees with you doesn't have a clue. You have no idea my or anyone else's experience.
Here you are again "ALL 1983/89 F250 L/D's came with 8.8's" and if it doesn't then it was swapped. It doesn't matter how many times you quote your precious catalog, call us stupid, or call us names, that still doesn not make that arrogant statement true.
This is true but you did not know the axle code before boldly proclaiming that ALL '83 F250LDs have 8.8s
Called you a DUMMY, kinda, but like everything else you say it seams to twist to fit you, are you a woman, you argue like one? I said;
That is your screen name here isn't it?
So by your logic sence I wasn't in the Continental Congress in 1776 I couldn't possibly know what the Declaration of Independence says?

You just keep going with that Ford experiance and catalog thing. Your right I'm here in FTE cause I have nothing to do with Fords. I don't own any, haven't been working in the industry sence I was 16(18 years ago) and didn't spend years at a FORD dealership, ohh wait, I was just playing pussom, yes I did. But why would that even matter, wether I'm a 16 year old retard or Henry Ford himself, the facts are the facts. And that fact is not "ALL 1983/89 F250 Light Duty's" came with 8.8s as you claim. Most, the vast majority came with D60 semi-floaters until the swap I think about '85 when the D60 was replaced with the Sterling 10.25 semi-floater.
Here we are with the same thing again, NOBODY without your exact catalog and experience could possibly know what there talking about there is no other way to know anything about anything Ford other then your experience and catalogs. That apparently thousands and thousands of trucks don't count as a "shred of proof"

And like I said before the 8.8 has many many MANY flaws, but nobody not even the amazing numberDUMMY could know who at Ford knew what.

 

When I got my 84 F250 back in 1991, it had the 8.8 axle under it. Once the engine was rebuilt, I found out the rear end was bad. Went to the junk yard to find a exact axle. Found many 5 lug but no 8lug. The junkyard guy said that axle was a rare one and would be better to get a D60 insted. He also said I had to shorten the drive shaft for the D60 to fit. So a D60 semi-float went under the truck.


I found my F250 is basicly a F150 with 8 lugs.........