what transmission ?
#17
I know they will physically bolt up and function, but you're saying that you could have ordered a '95 - '96 7.3 PSD with a C6?
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'96 7.3 F-350 Reg Cab 4x4 - bought new.
'04 6.0 E-350 custom 4x4
'08 6.4 F-550 Reg Cab 6 spd 4x4
'17 6.7 F-250 KR ccsb 4x4
'96 7.3 F-350 Reg Cab 4x4 - bought new.
'04 6.0 E-350 custom 4x4
'08 6.4 F-550 Reg Cab 6 spd 4x4
'17 6.7 F-250 KR ccsb 4x4
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#22
I know the IDI's could have a C6 behind them, and an IDI and a Big Block Ford use the same bell housing. The PSD had a different housing, so they either had to make a new case for the C6 behind the PSD or it never happened....
FWIW my Ext. Cab has 334xxx on the orignal E4OD, when I parked it last fall the trans still shifted great. the electronics were giving me fits, like the Speed sensor and the wiring for the tail lights was causing the converter not to lock.
Diesel Rod
FWIW my Ext. Cab has 334xxx on the orignal E4OD, when I parked it last fall the trans still shifted great. the electronics were giving me fits, like the Speed sensor and the wiring for the tail lights was causing the converter not to lock.
Diesel Rod
#23
Huh. That's strange because they put the same ZF S5-42 transmissions in the IDI trucks that they did on the manual trucks. My transmission was originally installed in an IDI and I didn't have to modify my adaptor plate or anything to make it fit.
Edit: I must be misunderstanding what you're trying to say.
Edit: I must be misunderstanding what you're trying to say.
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#25
Thanks Mark, I didn't know that!
Incorrect.
The 6.9/7.3 IDI and 7.3 PSD have the same housing pattern that matches nothing else.
Well, I would take the word of a former Ford trans engineer over any shop manual...
The 6.9/7.3 IDI and 7.3 PSD have the same housing pattern that matches nothing else.
Per the '95 EVTM, the PSD did not have the C6. The C6 requires a vacuum control, and the vacuum diagram for the diesel engine does not include the C6 tranny; only the diagram for the gasser does.
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'96 7.3 F-350 Reg Cab 4x4 - bought new.
'04 6.0 E-350 custom 4x4
'08 6.4 F-550 Reg Cab 6 spd 4x4
'17 6.7 F-250 KR ccsb 4x4
'96 7.3 F-350 Reg Cab 4x4 - bought new.
'04 6.0 E-350 custom 4x4
'08 6.4 F-550 Reg Cab 6 spd 4x4
'17 6.7 F-250 KR ccsb 4x4
#26
'Course, this is a truck EVTM; it's not exhaustive, in that it doesn't include the vans. But here's a question: even if there was a C6 behind a Powerstroke, since the PCM would have to be completely different, do any of the PCM code lists make reference to it?
#27
Yes he (I) have seen a C6 behind a Powerstroke. They were in production through the 1996 model year. I think you had to be a fleet buyer to get one, but they were produced at the plants. If you don't want to believe it, fine by me.
The C6 was built with a diesel bellhousing. That's the same bellhousing on all 7.3L engines, IDI and Powerstroke. This is a different bell than any gas engine that Ford produced.
Manuals are not the final word. There are WAY more errors and omissions in manuals than you would believe. The last thing that is done in any program is the manual, and often the engineers are already assigned to the next program before the manual is done, so the manual doesn't get the attention that it should.
Here's an example. Try to find a reference to a 1999 Cougar with a four cylinder automatic. ALL the literature says it doesn't exist. The four cylinder was only offered with a manual transmission. I had a 1999 Cougar four cylinder with an automatic.
At the launch of the 1999 Cougar they built just over 3100 four cylinder automatics. They were deemed to be such poor performers that upper manglement canceled the availability of this package. They felt it would hurt the car's quality rating. Now what to do with 3100 cars that have already been built that they don't want to sell? They offered a special lease deal to certain employees that already had company lease vehicles. I was one of those. I had the car for two years, and it sure wasn't a fast two years. That car couldn't get out of it's own way.
The manuals don't show it, the parts lists don't show it, but there were 3100 of them in 1999.
The C6 was built with a diesel bellhousing. That's the same bellhousing on all 7.3L engines, IDI and Powerstroke. This is a different bell than any gas engine that Ford produced.
Manuals are not the final word. There are WAY more errors and omissions in manuals than you would believe. The last thing that is done in any program is the manual, and often the engineers are already assigned to the next program before the manual is done, so the manual doesn't get the attention that it should.
Here's an example. Try to find a reference to a 1999 Cougar with a four cylinder automatic. ALL the literature says it doesn't exist. The four cylinder was only offered with a manual transmission. I had a 1999 Cougar four cylinder with an automatic.
At the launch of the 1999 Cougar they built just over 3100 four cylinder automatics. They were deemed to be such poor performers that upper manglement canceled the availability of this package. They felt it would hurt the car's quality rating. Now what to do with 3100 cars that have already been built that they don't want to sell? They offered a special lease deal to certain employees that already had company lease vehicles. I was one of those. I had the car for two years, and it sure wasn't a fast two years. That car couldn't get out of it's own way.
The manuals don't show it, the parts lists don't show it, but there were 3100 of them in 1999.
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#29
10 years ago my friends dad's 6.9 cavitated and he built a 460 for it. I helped him pull the 6.9 and drop in the 460. I am almost positive it bolted right to the bellhousing. I know the original diesel T-19 was used. Time will tell, I just texted him if he rememberes but no reply yet.
#30
The 94.5 PSD was manual only. No E4OD and no C6. That changed in 1995. Why? I dunno. Some product planner decided that's how it was going to be.