AOD to 5 speed manual transmission conversion PICS
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I do. I'm halfway across the country but I've got two M5's sitting here. Both are 4WD. One needs shift fork assembly. I'm running a ZF and have no use for them.
Nice pictorial there, Dave. Anyone wanting to do a ZF S5-42 swap... have a look at this as well because physically, the ZF and M5 are identical for mountings and hardware.
Nice pictorial there, Dave. Anyone wanting to do a ZF S5-42 swap... have a look at this as well because physically, the ZF and M5 are identical for mountings and hardware.
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a list of the required pieces when switching from AOD to 5 speed mazda or ZF equivalent:
transmission (obviously)
cross member
cross member gussets or upper rail supports
starter
link bar for manual shift T case to transmission shift mechanism
pedal assembly
master cylinder
slave cylinder
hydraulic line
transmission mount (i am willing to bet they both fit and bolt the same. very minor differences light height)
and most importantly the driveshafts.
the driveshafts are the most important part and i overlooked them. i thought i would be able to use the ones from the AOD for the 5 speed but i was SOL and there was little i could do about it. front shaft from an f150 was perfect but the rear shaft needed a good 2 inches removed from the AOD shaft so i bartered and got mine resized.
as for wiring, snip 2 wires out of the 5 pin plug for the back up lights, and 2 for neutral safety. i chose not to have back up lights so for the other 2 wires just bring them through the firewall directly off the plug on the fender and connect them to the switch on the pedal. it is a "push to be able to start" setup now that easily.
any more info, i have it.
transmission (obviously)
cross member
cross member gussets or upper rail supports
starter
link bar for manual shift T case to transmission shift mechanism
pedal assembly
master cylinder
slave cylinder
hydraulic line
transmission mount (i am willing to bet they both fit and bolt the same. very minor differences light height)
and most importantly the driveshafts.
the driveshafts are the most important part and i overlooked them. i thought i would be able to use the ones from the AOD for the 5 speed but i was SOL and there was little i could do about it. front shaft from an f150 was perfect but the rear shaft needed a good 2 inches removed from the AOD shaft so i bartered and got mine resized.
as for wiring, snip 2 wires out of the 5 pin plug for the back up lights, and 2 for neutral safety. i chose not to have back up lights so for the other 2 wires just bring them through the firewall directly off the plug on the fender and connect them to the switch on the pedal. it is a "push to be able to start" setup now that easily.
any more info, i have it.
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1988 bronco
Hey i have a 1988 ford bronco sitting in my garage i just got my liscense and im wanting to put a 5 speed manual transmission in it rather than the stock AOD i pulled my motor and tranny sold my AOD and took my motor down the the block and im rebuilding it at the moment but was wondering what transmission i need that would be easiest to install to my t case and what other parts i would need to swap it properly
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a list of the required pieces when switching from AOD to 5 speed mazda or ZF equivalent:
transmission (obviously)
cross member
cross member gussets or upper rail supports
starter
link bar for manual shift T case to transmission shift mechanism
pedal assembly
master cylinder
slave cylinder
hydraulic line
transmission mount (i am willing to bet they both fit and bolt the same. very minor differences light height)
and most importantly the driveshafts.
the driveshafts are the most important part and i overlooked them. i thought i would be able to use the ones from the AOD for the 5 speed but i was SOL and there was little i could do about it. front shaft from an f150 was perfect but the rear shaft needed a good 2 inches removed from the AOD shaft so i bartered and got mine resized.
as for wiring, snip 2 wires out of the 5 pin plug for the back up lights, and 2 for neutral safety. i chose not to have back up lights so for the other 2 wires just bring them through the firewall directly off the plug on the fender and connect them to the switch on the pedal. it is a "push to be able to start" setup now that easily.
any more info, i have it.
transmission (obviously)
cross member
cross member gussets or upper rail supports
starter
link bar for manual shift T case to transmission shift mechanism
pedal assembly
master cylinder
slave cylinder
hydraulic line
transmission mount (i am willing to bet they both fit and bolt the same. very minor differences light height)
and most importantly the driveshafts.
the driveshafts are the most important part and i overlooked them. i thought i would be able to use the ones from the AOD for the 5 speed but i was SOL and there was little i could do about it. front shaft from an f150 was perfect but the rear shaft needed a good 2 inches removed from the AOD shaft so i bartered and got mine resized.
as for wiring, snip 2 wires out of the 5 pin plug for the back up lights, and 2 for neutral safety. i chose not to have back up lights so for the other 2 wires just bring them through the firewall directly off the plug on the fender and connect them to the switch on the pedal. it is a "push to be able to start" setup now that easily.
any more info, i have it.
Driving the truck now with the 5 speed is it better than the aod ?
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a list of the required pieces when switching from AOD to 5 speed mazda or ZF equivalent:
transmission (obviously)
cross member
cross member gussets or upper rail supports
starter
link bar for manual shift T case to transmission shift mechanism
pedal assembly
master cylinder
slave cylinder
hydraulic line
transmission mount (i am willing to bet they both fit and bolt the same. very minor differences light height)
and most importantly the driveshafts.
the driveshafts are the most important part and i overlooked them. i thought i would be able to use the ones from the AOD for the 5 speed but i was SOL and there was little i could do about it. front shaft from an f150 was perfect but the rear shaft needed a good 2 inches removed from the AOD shaft so i bartered and got mine resized.
as for wiring, snip 2 wires out of the 5 pin plug for the back up lights, and 2 for neutral safety. i chose not to have back up lights so for the other 2 wires just bring them through the firewall directly off the plug on the fender and connect them to the switch on the pedal. it is a "push to be able to start" setup now that easily.
any more info, i have it.
transmission (obviously)
cross member
cross member gussets or upper rail supports
starter
link bar for manual shift T case to transmission shift mechanism
pedal assembly
master cylinder
slave cylinder
hydraulic line
transmission mount (i am willing to bet they both fit and bolt the same. very minor differences light height)
and most importantly the driveshafts.
the driveshafts are the most important part and i overlooked them. i thought i would be able to use the ones from the AOD for the 5 speed but i was SOL and there was little i could do about it. front shaft from an f150 was perfect but the rear shaft needed a good 2 inches removed from the AOD shaft so i bartered and got mine resized.
as for wiring, snip 2 wires out of the 5 pin plug for the back up lights, and 2 for neutral safety. i chose not to have back up lights so for the other 2 wires just bring them through the firewall directly off the plug on the fender and connect them to the switch on the pedal. it is a "push to be able to start" setup now that easily.
any more info, i have it.
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I just swapped from an AOD to a ZF5 as well.
This isn't the best picture, but if you go to the zoomed in view, you can see the wiring colors.
You'll need a plug for a manual transmission. Just connect the reverse light wires to the plug (their order doesn't really matter), and then connect the park/neutral safety switch wires to each other to bypass them.
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This isn't the best picture, but if you go to the zoomed in view, you can see the wiring colors.
You'll need a plug for a manual transmission. Just connect the reverse light wires to the plug (their order doesn't really matter), and then connect the park/neutral safety switch wires to each other to bypass them.
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I just swapped from an AOD to a ZF5 as well.
This isn't the best picture, but if you go to the zoomed in view, you can see the wiring colors.
You'll need a plug for a manual transmission. Just connect the reverse light wires to the plug (their order doesn't really matter), and then connect the park/neutral safety switch wires to each other to bypass them.
.
This isn't the best picture, but if you go to the zoomed in view, you can see the wiring colors.
You'll need a plug for a manual transmission. Just connect the reverse light wires to the plug (their order doesn't really matter), and then connect the park/neutral safety switch wires to each other to bypass them.
.
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a list of the required pieces when switching from AOD to 5 speed mazda or ZF equivalent:
transmission (obviously)
cross member
cross member gussets or upper rail supports
starter
link bar for manual shift T case to transmission shift mechanism
pedal assembly
master cylinder
slave cylinder
hydraulic line
transmission mount (i am willing to bet they both fit and bolt the same. very minor differences light height)
and most importantly the driveshafts.
the driveshafts are the most important part and i overlooked them. i thought i would be able to use the ones from the AOD for the 5 speed but i was SOL and there was little i could do about it. front shaft from an f150 was perfect but the rear shaft needed a good 2 inches removed from the AOD shaft so i bartered and got mine resized.
as for wiring, snip 2 wires out of the 5 pin plug for the back up lights, and 2 for neutral safety. i chose not to have back up lights so for the other 2 wires just bring them through the firewall directly off the plug on the fender and connect them to the switch on the pedal. it is a "push to be able to start" setup now that easily.
any more info, i have it.
transmission (obviously)
cross member
cross member gussets or upper rail supports
starter
link bar for manual shift T case to transmission shift mechanism
pedal assembly
master cylinder
slave cylinder
hydraulic line
transmission mount (i am willing to bet they both fit and bolt the same. very minor differences light height)
and most importantly the driveshafts.
the driveshafts are the most important part and i overlooked them. i thought i would be able to use the ones from the AOD for the 5 speed but i was SOL and there was little i could do about it. front shaft from an f150 was perfect but the rear shaft needed a good 2 inches removed from the AOD shaft so i bartered and got mine resized.
as for wiring, snip 2 wires out of the 5 pin plug for the back up lights, and 2 for neutral safety. i chose not to have back up lights so for the other 2 wires just bring them through the firewall directly off the plug on the fender and connect them to the switch on the pedal. it is a "push to be able to start" setup now that easily.
any more info, i have it.
So .. I'm doing this exact swap and I'm trying to get everything ready to do it in July. I know this thread is old, but do you know how long the rear shaft has to be.. Also any pointers on anything you didn't think about after the fact besides the drive shafts? I got a full 1990 f250 donor so u have the linkage, master, slave, tranny , mounts, cross member, ECT.. Only thing I've been recently told is that the pedal assy from a 90 won't bolt up to a bull nose.. That I'll need a set from a bull nose f150 or f250.
Just trying to dot all my eyes..
Thinking I'm gonna replace all the regular stuff (flywheel, clutch, throw away bearing, pressure plate)
Any info or suggestions anyone has is well welcomed
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One of the best resources I found for proper driveshaft length was BroncoGraveyard.com
Unfortunately, all of their driveshafts are titled differently, so they can be a little cumbersome to sift through (some have the length in the title, some don't, etc).
But, they list the exact length of every drive shaft, for every year, and every combination that came from the factory.
Search for "Rear Driveshaft" and it should pull them all up.
Unfortunately, all of their driveshafts are titled differently, so they can be a little cumbersome to sift through (some have the length in the title, some don't, etc).
But, they list the exact length of every drive shaft, for every year, and every combination that came from the factory.
Search for "Rear Driveshaft" and it should pull them all up.
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