Running rough after new spark plugs
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WHY REPLACE SPARK PLUGS IN A MODERN VEHICLE ?
Somebody help me out here . Of course in the old days we who hated walking, did preventitive maintainence...points, condensor, dist. caps, plugs, etc, at regular intervals.
But this is not the old days - and last I heard, my local auto parts dealer was fresh out of points, condensor, rotor, and dist. cap for my 2005 V-10......!
I have 140,000 mi. on the "fine wire" plugs - and no sign of a mis-fire. Anyone remember the expression that is NOW very valid " IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT SCREW WITH IT"...
So, someone explain to me why we should EVER screw with a MODERN vehicle's spark-plugs, until and less they start mis-firing ?
Somebody help me out here . Of course in the old days we who hated walking, did preventitive maintainence...points, condensor, dist. caps, plugs, etc, at regular intervals.
But this is not the old days - and last I heard, my local auto parts dealer was fresh out of points, condensor, rotor, and dist. cap for my 2005 V-10......!
I have 140,000 mi. on the "fine wire" plugs - and no sign of a mis-fire. Anyone remember the expression that is NOW very valid " IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT SCREW WITH IT"...
So, someone explain to me why we should EVER screw with a MODERN vehicle's spark-plugs, until and less they start mis-firing ?
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. . . . your ( o ld ) plugs and boots! They will fire the cylinders enough to not cause a miss but they just aren't doing a good job of it. (Not complete and efficient combustion). The new engines will allow plugs to last longer but like everything else; they wear out. (don't skimp on the boots either!)
nope - internal combustion engines dont work that way. The spark either "lights off" the fuel mixture or it dosnt.
Of course plugs erode eventually, and the heat of the engine eventually destroys the insulating capability of the boots. But there is no 'half way' on this. Given the extremely high voltage of modern ignition, they will throw spark across even really bad plugs. That's the beauty of modern "fine wire" spark plugs - they can go a LONG time and get REALLY bad before they fail to "light off" a mixture.
As many have noted in this and other "threads", the extremely powerful ignition systems of modern cars DO most certainly require better insulation in the form of both wiring and boots. So I do agree this is a job better not done "half-way" - do it all or leave it alone. "if it aint broke dont fix it" ! If your motor is running smoothly, leave the plugs and boots alone.
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Plug after 60K.
Think of it this way. You free up a weekend morning, no kids, no wife, just you and the V10 hangin' out sipping a brew, listening to oldies (70's, 80's, 90's, NPR, Rush, whatever; it's all good). Ease off those Cops and boots, shoot a little compressed air to clear the debris, use pop's old hand tools (he'd be smilin' at you gettin another use out of 'em -he got'em from his pop too) to loosen and check out those well worn plugs. Smile and sip, hmm amber ale today. If ya like what you see, put those new plugs away and slide them antiquated fireplugs and stiff boots back on and move to the next. Anti sieze or not, up to you in between tunes, oh I love that guitar riff. Ya get to stretch the back and arms on #4 and 5, but they too come out and get inspected and replaced... or not...
Point is, you enjoy the time with your EX- Zen style.
Think of it this way. You free up a weekend morning, no kids, no wife, just you and the V10 hangin' out sipping a brew, listening to oldies (70's, 80's, 90's, NPR, Rush, whatever; it's all good). Ease off those Cops and boots, shoot a little compressed air to clear the debris, use pop's old hand tools (he'd be smilin' at you gettin another use out of 'em -he got'em from his pop too) to loosen and check out those well worn plugs. Smile and sip, hmm amber ale today. If ya like what you see, put those new plugs away and slide them antiquated fireplugs and stiff boots back on and move to the next. Anti sieze or not, up to you in between tunes, oh I love that guitar riff. Ya get to stretch the back and arms on #4 and 5, but they too come out and get inspected and replaced... or not...
Point is, you enjoy the time with your EX- Zen style.
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nope - internal combustion engines dont work that way. The spark either "lights off" the fuel mixture or it dosnt.
Of course plugs erode eventually, and the heat of the engine eventually destroys the insulating capability of the boots. But there is no 'half way' on this. Given the extremely high voltage of modern ignition, they will throw spark across even really bad plugs. That's the beauty of modern "fine wire" spark plugs - they can go a LONG time and get REALLY bad before they fail to "light off" a mixture.
As many have noted in this and other "threads", the extremely powerful ignition systems of modern cars DO most certainly require better insulation in the form of both wiring and boots. So I do agree this is a job better not done "half-way" - do it all or leave it alone. "if it aint broke dont fix it" ! If your motor is running smoothly, leave the plugs and boots alone.
nope - internal combustion engines dont work that way. The spark either "lights off" the fuel mixture or it dosnt.
Of course plugs erode eventually, and the heat of the engine eventually destroys the insulating capability of the boots. But there is no 'half way' on this. Given the extremely high voltage of modern ignition, they will throw spark across even really bad plugs. That's the beauty of modern "fine wire" spark plugs - they can go a LONG time and get REALLY bad before they fail to "light off" a mixture.
As many have noted in this and other "threads", the extremely powerful ignition systems of modern cars DO most certainly require better insulation in the form of both wiring and boots. So I do agree this is a job better not done "half-way" - do it all or leave it alone. "if it aint broke dont fix it" ! If your motor is running smoothly, leave the plugs and boots alone.
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nope - internal combustion engines dont work that way. The spark either "lights off" the fuel mixture or it dosnt.
Of course plugs erode eventually, and the heat of the engine eventually destroys the insulating capability of the boots. But there is no 'half way' on this. Given the extremely high voltage of modern ignition, they will throw spark across even really bad plugs. That's the beauty of modern "fine wire" spark plugs - they can go a LONG time and get REALLY bad before they fail to "light off" a mixture.
As many have noted in this and other "threads", the extremely powerful ignition systems of modern cars DO most certainly require better insulation in the form of both wiring and boots. So I do agree this is a job better not done "half-way" - do it all or leave it alone. "if it aint broke dont fix it" ! If your motor is running smoothly, leave the plugs and boots alone.
nope - internal combustion engines dont work that way. The spark either "lights off" the fuel mixture or it dosnt.
Of course plugs erode eventually, and the heat of the engine eventually destroys the insulating capability of the boots. But there is no 'half way' on this. Given the extremely high voltage of modern ignition, they will throw spark across even really bad plugs. That's the beauty of modern "fine wire" spark plugs - they can go a LONG time and get REALLY bad before they fail to "light off" a mixture.
As many have noted in this and other "threads", the extremely powerful ignition systems of modern cars DO most certainly require better insulation in the form of both wiring and boots. So I do agree this is a job better not done "half-way" - do it all or leave it alone. "if it aint broke dont fix it" ! If your motor is running smoothly, leave the plugs and boots alone.
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