Hard Start and White Smoke
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Hard Start and White Smoke
I have a issue with my 96 F250 7.3 I have scanned all posts on this issue and probably have overlooked the answer, but here is what I have done. When I first bought the truck some 5-6 years ago, I talked with the seller about it starting hard and they agreed to help replace the GP's and and injectors. Replaced the relay under the cover as well. Still today, when I check it with a meter the relay shows it's working. Is there more then (1) relay? So then & now it has never changed the fact of a hard start in the cold weather. If I plug it in, it starts right away without any trouble. If not plugged in, I will have to crank this sucker over and over and over. Each time it gets closer to starting, and then finally it will take off. Oh yeah, I also wait for the "W.T.S." light to go out but it don't seem to make any difference. I have been told I could be leaking fuel back into the tank due to a check valve not working somewhere in the fuel system and it not be getting fuel to the injectors as soon as it should? Where would the check valve be? if there is such a thing on this truck.. I have already had to change a starter once due to what I believe is from excssive hard starts. I do not believe the wire harness for the GP's has ever been changed when GP's were changed? Bottom line, I don't use the truck in the winter months. When it's cold and no snow I just plug it in and have dealt with it. Does anyone have any thoughts? I know this is a long explanation and you have prolly heard it before, but I am at a total loss as what to do. Any help would be great. BTW. FANTASTIC SITE... Thanks Bill
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Does it start OK when it's plugged in?
The WTS light is independent of the actual glow plug 'on time'. They can stay energized up to 120 seconds. Watch the volt meter to confirm this. It will remain towards the discharge side, @ idle, while the GP's are on. It will swing to the chrge side after they go off.
Next cold start-up take a screw driver and cross out the two large terminals on the GPR. Hold for 30-40 seconds. Jump in the truck and start it. If it fires up OK you need a new GPR. If it starts up better but stumbles a bit then straightens up you need a glow plug or two. Let us know.
Does it start OK when it's plugged in?
The WTS light is independent of the actual glow plug 'on time'. They can stay energized up to 120 seconds. Watch the volt meter to confirm this. It will remain towards the discharge side, @ idle, while the GP's are on. It will swing to the chrge side after they go off.
Next cold start-up take a screw driver and cross out the two large terminals on the GPR. Hold for 30-40 seconds. Jump in the truck and start it. If it fires up OK you need a new GPR. If it starts up better but stumbles a bit then straightens up you need a glow plug or two. Let us know.
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Hello James,
That's the part of the puzzle that I don't understand? When they were both replaced new back 5-6 years ago, it still started hard. It never did start the way all other diesels started. I would be the one in the lot cranking this sucker over & over, that's why I alsoways thought it was something else. But your probably correct and thats why I am asking the questions because I am not the expert on this issue.
Thanks again and will take this under concideration
Bill
That's the part of the puzzle that I don't understand? When they were both replaced new back 5-6 years ago, it still started hard. It never did start the way all other diesels started. I would be the one in the lot cranking this sucker over & over, that's why I alsoways thought it was something else. But your probably correct and thats why I am asking the questions because I am not the expert on this issue.
Thanks again and will take this under concideration
Bill
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5-6 years is long time for the GPR if it's OEM, aftermarkets last even less. There are better choices for a new GPR if you need a new one. Search this site for 'Stancore' for more info
Since it fires OK when it's plugged in the problem is in the GP system. Do the screwdriver thing first. The GP's can be individually checked afterwards to pinpoint which are bad......if any.
Since it fires OK when it's plugged in the problem is in the GP system. Do the screwdriver thing first. The GP's can be individually checked afterwards to pinpoint which are bad......if any.
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another good gpr, mentioned by bill(madvan)
FORD DIESEL GLOW PLUG Relay 6.9 and 7.3 Powerstroke - eBay (item 290521779425 end time May-11-11 13:00:00 PDT)
FORD DIESEL GLOW PLUG Relay 6.9 and 7.3 Powerstroke - eBay (item 290521779425 end time May-11-11 13:00:00 PDT)
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