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Unhappy 460 swap problems

Ok... First topic here so bear with me. I'm fifteen, I've got limited money, and I've got a 71 F100 4WD that I'm trying to get a 460 in. I've see it done so I know its not impossible. I bought all the mounting brackets and I have everything I need except the "clamshell" part. I've looked in salvage yards, online, LMC, etc. It's getting ridiculous, to say the least. So does anyone know where I can find them? I'd be happy just to get dimensions so I can have some made.
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"Clamshell"?
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This should give you what you need to drop a 460 into a F100 4wd that originally had a 360-390 in it.

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you must be talking about these,its what i use on my 74 f 250 4x4 Advance Auto Parts: Mount Engine-Transmission by Anchor - Part 2502
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you must be talking about these,its what i use on my 74 f 250 4x4 Advance Auto Parts: Mount Engine-Transmission by Anchor - Part 2502

Actually, it's the part that bolts to the block, witch the part you just showed bolts to. But then again I'm going off of other peoples info. I saw a picture of them if I could just find it....
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Actually, it's the part that bolts to the block, witch the part you just showed bolts to. But then again I'm going off of other peoples info. I saw a picture of them if I could just find it....


This is the best pic I could find.
May be a salvage yard item.
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That's just a motor mount.
Why would you want to use an old one?



....or do you mean the adapter that goes on first:

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He's talkin about seventies style not eighties. The "clamshell" is the black part on my photo. This is Not a parts store item.
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I bought all the mounting brackets and I have everything I need except the "clamshell" part. I've looked in salvage yards, online, LMC, etc. It's getting ridiculous, to say the least. So does anyone know where I can find them?
You might try Bill (Numberdummy) on here. He could tell you if there are any nos Ford ones left over.
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The bosses on the block aren't any different. What's to keep you from using a later style motor mount?
If it's an engine swap that was never available from the factory then it is certainly not a matter of being concours correct.

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Can you offer 'restomodifer' the dimensions he needs to fabricate something that will work?
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Can you offer 'restomodifer' the dimensions he needs to fabricate something that will work?
Mines in the truck now but I sent Numberdummy a PM. Hopefully he can locate them NOS.
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There are no factory 4WD engine supports (towers, stands, perches) that can be used on any 1982 or earlier F100/350 4WD w/a 460.

The first year the 460 was available with 4WD (and a manual trans) was in 1983-F350 only.

No 460's were offered for F100/150's after 1979.

To install a 460 in a 4WD will require purchasing a mount kit from L&L or Summit. The 1973/79 F100/350 2WD factory 460 engine mounts (2-D3TZ6038A) and brackets (D3TZ6030A & D3TZ6031A) can be used, but there are no factory engine supports for 460 4WD's.

The D3TZ6030A-right/D3TZ6031A-left brackets bolt to the engine block, the rubber insulators (D3TZ6038A) bolt to these then to the supports.

You will also need the correct oil pump and screen, a reverse sump pan, and the adapter to bolt the pickup tube to the engine.

Econoline & Passenger Car 460 mounting parts will not work on any F100/350.
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The 1973/79 F100/350 2WD factory 460 engine mounts (2-D3TZ6038A) and brackets (D3TZ6030A & D3TZ6031A) can be used, but there are no factory engine supports for 460 4WD's.

The D3TZ6030A-right/D3TZ6031A-left brackets bolt to the engine block, the rubber insulators (D3TZ6038A) bolt to these then to the supports.

Bill, that was error on my part, I assumed that he was going to fab 2wd stands or supports into the 4wd truck and for all I know that may not be practical.

But anyway you have listed what I think he was after to complete his parts collection.
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This is the best pic I could find.
May be a salvage yard item.
YES! Thank you, everyone seems to look at me cross-eyed when I try to explain. And the reason I don't go with a newer-style mount is that the brackets I bought won't work any other way.
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