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Old 11-13-2010, 09:13 PM
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Rusty rear spring mount replacement with pics

Figured I post this up, I didn't find too much in the way of pics when I was seaching. Here is my stab at replacing the left rear leaf spring mount and shackle on my 93 f150. As Im sure your aware, you need to remove the 4 factory rivets to get the old mount off so you can bolt the new one on. I just bought the truck and lucked out as the seller gave me a new mount and shackle with the truck when I bought it, I did end up buying a new nut and bolt that connects the shackle to the mount due to rust. I could probably reused the old shackle, but since I had a new one, i went with that.

Other than an impact gun and typical hand tools, these are the tools I used to get those rivets off. I used a cut off wheel and an air chisel, both of which were harbor freight specials, probably cost me like $5 each. I'm sure if i was using real tools, it would not have taken me so long!
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I found that the cut off wheel worked best and I just pretty much ground off as much of the rivets as I could, but room was tight and it was hard to get the thing in there. The air chisel came in handy at those times. It did not help that the bolt holding the shackle to the mount would not come loose(even with my IR 2180ti) and without undoing the lower shackle bolt, you cannot disconnect the leaf spring from the shackle as the bolt is stopped by the frame from coming out!
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2 done
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I was able to rotate the mount once 3 were ground off to get the leaf spring out of the way so I could get to the 4th rivet.
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Finally got all 4 four out and got the old bracket off. You can see my old one compared to the new one. Strangely, my right side bracket is solid.
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I wire brushed the area alittle and hit it with some primer and paint before bolting the new bracket on, fit like a glove. Took some advice from some forum members and installed the bolts for the shackle to mount and shackle to leaf spring loosely then put the truck back on the ground and tightened them up once the suspension was under load. The reason behind this is that if you tighten the bolts while the truck is in the air, the axle is at droop, once you lower the truck, the joints twist and rubber bushings in those joints would be under pressure and won't last long like that.


Then I hit the whole thing with some undercoating I had eventually I'll do the whole frame.
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Hope this helps anyone who is weary about the repair. I am in no means a professional mechanic, I like say i'm on the higher end of the curve for the backyard wrench. It took me about 5-6 hours, i was taking my time and my 4 y/o son stopped me every 10 minutes or so to see what I was doing. I did not have to drop the rear gas tank, or disconnect anything for that matter. If you have any questions, post em up and I'll answer them as best as I can for you.

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Old 11-14-2010, 04:31 AM
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Thanks for sharing your repair job. I'm sure this will be usefull for others.

I'm not sure I would have put undercoating on it. I definitely don't think I would do the rest of the frame. All that stuff will do is hold in make it rust faster, unless you get every bit of rust removed.

I'm probably going to have to replace them on my truck.
 
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:06 AM
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Best thing I ever used for rust besides some specialty coatings that cost alot for just a quart of paint, was rustoleum rust reformer paint. Its made to go right over surface and cleaned up rust (no loose stuff) and does work. I painted a toyota truck with it a few years back then coated it with satin black over it and very little rust has returned. I wanted also mention that I didnt really clean it all that well of the dirt and grime either? I did coat it 2 different times tho.
 
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:37 AM
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Good replacement job. I live in the salt/rust belt of Michigan and that salt is quite nasty to anything on vehicles. I have been through this job on both sides of my truck as well as the radius arms.

I found that local Ford dealer always stock the brackets & shackles because this is a very common problem.
 
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Thanks for posting this. I have a broken shackle on the driver's side to replace. I'm sure this will be a big help!
 
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Old 11-29-2010, 07:44 PM
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Excellent post! Luckily, I don`t have that problem...YET.
 
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I just did this fix this weekend on a buddys truck. Lucky we had a torch though, only took me like an hour total. Good job man!
 
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I'm planning on replacing both my rear leafspring hangers as soon as I get enough money. Would it be possible to remove the rivets with a reciprocating saw? And if my shackle isn't in too bad of condition should I still replace it or just put the old one back on?
 
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Thanks for the post, I had to replace my rear springs and when taking them off with fire I noticed that my rear hangers are rusted through. I was dreading doing them but this seems like something I can tackle. Thanks again!
 
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Originally Posted by GreenGray
I'm planning on replacing both my rear leafspring hangers as soon as I get enough money. Would it be possible to remove the rivets with a reciprocating saw? And if my shackle isn't in too bad of condition should I still replace it or just put the old one back on?
I don't think a reciprocating saw will work for removing the rivets. If you can't use a torch, then you need to drill them out or cut them like the original poster did and use an air chisel.

I would at least put a new bushing in the shackle.
 
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I'm planning on replacing both my rear leafspring hangers as soon as I get enough money. Would it be possible to remove the rivets with a reciprocating saw? And if my shackle isn't in too bad of condition should I still replace it or just put the old one back on?
....Yes a sawzall with a good metal cutting blade is the fastest , i like to use a air chissle to make a small notch then saw it off , use the long blade to , ....Lew
 
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I have a 7" angle grinder (electric) rather than the 4" that the OP used. Will this still work or is it too big for the work area?
 
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I have a 7" angle grinder (electric) rather than the 4" that the OP used. Will this still work or is it too big for the work area?
7" is a bit big unless you have the bed off, which make the whole process alot easier
 
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Thanks again for posting this thread. It gave me the motivation to do this repair myself!

Some things I'd like to add for posterity. A Sawzall was invaluable for cutting off the shackle even with the spring eye so that I could get to the frame bracket rivets. The air chisel didn't work so hot for me at punching out the leaf spring bolts and rivets once the rivet heads were out but the pointed bit did work well in conjuction with a BFH.

Also, my truck is 4WD with a bit of lift which kept the spring eye against the bed even when the rearend was lowered. To get the spring eye down to line up the shackle bolts and to cut the spring eye bolt with a Sawzall I had to take the rear wheels off to get the rearend down - the 6 ton jackstands were at the highest notch.

The reason I had to cut the spring eye bolt in 4 total pcs was because it wouldn't clear the top of the frame or bed bracket and I have a Reese hitch that the bolt wouldn't clear on the bottom side. I put the new bolt in the spring eye from the opposite way.
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
7" is a bit big unless you have the bed off, which make the whole process alot easier
Yeah, having done this myself a while back the 7" grinder is a big big, however once you get the bracket and the spring out of the way it's not an issue with a big grinder.

The way I did it was use a cutting disk and cut through the bracket, then jacked up the rear axle a bit so the eye of the spring went above the bracket and out of the way. One could also lower the axle and achieve the same thing.

I had to jack the axle up because my jack stands under the frame couldn't be adjusted any higher and the tires just barely touched on the ground. I had to go up.
 


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