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Old 10-06-2013, 11:28 AM
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Well, I figured it was time to revive this thread. I got motivated this morning and tried a troubleshooting session.

While standing outside of the truck, I attempted to remote start my truck, and it honks, lights go on, and nothing happens.

Then I sat inside the truck, closed the door, held the key close to the ignition, attempted a remote start and it worked!

Where is this PATS bypass system located in the steering column? What does it look like?

Thanks in advance,

ALEX
 
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:41 PM
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The actual PATS module is in the column. But I don't think that is how the remote start bypasses that feature. That logic would be in the remote start module. It use to be when a remote start was installed with a system with a transponder key there was a small black box they would actually put a transponder key in that fit up under the dash. That was the way they bypassed it. Some still need that but technology has improved. Take one of your transponder keys and tape it to the column right by the key cylinder. Then get out of the vehicle and with everything secure see if it will remote start.
 
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:34 PM
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Have you made any progress. I have the exact same issues as you. Worked fine till this morning. Single honk no start. Key close to ign and truck starts. Where to go from here?? Ideas anyone
 
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:09 PM
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You need to find out how Ford does the bypass for a transponder system when you have a remote start. Somewhere, somehow there is "something" that is activated that allows the remote start to work without a key in the ignition. I wish I knew, but I don't.
 
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Old 11-27-2013, 10:49 PM
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The same thing is happening to me! I just bought the truck two months ago. 2006 F150 King Ranch. It didn't come with a remote so I bought one yesterday at the dealer and programmed it myself. I tried it with the key next to the ignition and now it starts! I hope somebody figures this one out! Otherwise I might buy a cheap PATS key on amazon for like $5-$10 and program it and break the chip out and tape it inside my colomn. Easy fix in my mind.
 
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Old 11-28-2013, 06:15 AM
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I just had a remote start put in my wife's car. They needed a chipped key to put in the system so it would work. I had two already so I bought a 3rd and programmed it so in the end we still had two. What they do is fit it in a special box under the dash that is wired into the remote start module that feeds that value in to the computer when the remote start system is activated. I asked them how a OEM remote start works without doing that. What he said was the transponder code is inherent within the remote start module from the factory. It is "married" to that computer just like your cluster is. He said it is common for that module to sometimes lose that value....hence the no run condition. In order to "fix" that a new module needs to be installed and the computer flashed to accept it.....big $$$. Just as you said, he claims you can pull the cowl and tape a chipped key inside on the right side by the cylinder. Problem is you lose your security and any key made that will turn the cylinder will start the truck.
This is all info. I was given, it makes sense, but I can not verify how this may effect other "things".
 
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Thank you for your help

Originally Posted by screwy
Hmmm that tells me it probably has a key sense, without the key does the light on top flash rapidly? If so, you might want to try holding the plastic part of the key against the ignition instead of inserting it and try to remote start again.
its been 4 years and just figured this out thanks all i had to do was turn the key 8 times leave the key in on the on postion hold the reset button on my alarm / starter then it beeped then put the key next to the egnition and press the auto start buttom started right up. Hell yeah hope this helps with all the commats i added them all tougher and made it happen. Moms car next lol
 
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