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Old May 31, 2026 | 02:48 PM
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Bad trouble with axle shaft snap ring

Hey all! Please help me! I'm going wrong somewhere and cannot figure it out for the life of me, I have what I think is a 1996 f150 4x4 with 5.0, manual locking hubs ( pics below as well)



I just put on desolate motorsports extended radius arms kit and My wheel bearings were shot, I replaced them and both my hubs as well, the inner wheel bearing race was loose when tapped in on one hub so I just decided to replace both hubs to have all new.
I also replaced the spindle bearing and tapped in its seal, and as well as the seal that slides all the way onto the stub shaft near the U joint.
so I have the bearing races tapped all the way in, wheel bearings torque to spec and when I slide my warn premium locking hub body in I can't get the axle shaft out far enough to slide the snap ring onto the axle shaft. I have pryed thr U joint but the axle shaft is as far as it can go, Do I have the wrong locking hub? Or maybe i bought the kind wrong hubs? Any help would be appreciated!




 
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Old May 31, 2026 | 04:20 PM
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I dont even run that snap ring. Some axles dont have the grove for it.
 
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Groove I meant.
 
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Old May 31, 2026 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by humphrey169
I dont even run that snap ring. Some axles dont have the grove for it.
The snap ring came out with the old locking hubs and the new ones came with one included, if I can run without it what was its purpose? Why do some include it?
 
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Usually just take a big screwdriver and pry the stub shaft out of the housing a little bit
That will allow you to install the snap ring
 
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He's right though, some stub shafts have no groove and some aftermarket Warn hubs will not allow you to install one
I install them if there is a groove and it fits
 
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
He's right though, some stub shafts have no groove and some aftermarket Warn hubs will not allow you to install one
I install them if there is a groove and it fits
I bought the warn premium locking hubs, the old ones were mile marker.
when thinking about it, if the snap ring is not installed what will stop the axle from walking back into the slip yoke? Will it walk back far enough that it doesn't engage 4wd?
Also something to note, the spindle seal that taps into the back side of the spindle broke when I used a pry bar and hammer on the back of the U joint to push the axle out further...
maybe I have the wrong spindle seal? I seen there are ones that are 3 piece, I have the single seal that taps in.
 
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No, it will cause no problems
You might hear a clunk when the stub shaft slaps around in there
Some water may get into the back of the stub shaft spindle bearing area, if you drive through rivers
Those bearings need to be packed once a year, or every 30 K miles anyway, so I worry little on the ones I have out there running around with none
 

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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
No, it will cause no problems
You might hear a clunk when the stub shaft slaps around in there
Some water may get into the back of the stub shaft spindle bearing area, if you drive through rivers
Those bearings need to be packed once a year, or every 30 K miles anyway, so I worry little on the ones I have out there running around with none
if what you say is true I will not worry about the axle stub shaft snap ring and only install the larger outer snapring to keep the hub in.
Thank you guys for your time replying back as I have been searching for answers on this for over a week now.
 
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Did you try to pry the stub shaft outward with a BIG screwdriver or pry bar?
Yours does not stick out as far as the ones I see do
I think you can install the snap ring in yours by just prying the stub shaft out
Put your pry bar on that U joint and force the axle out
 
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
Did you try to pry the stub shaft outward with a BIG screwdriver or pry bar?
Yours does not stick out as far as the ones I see do
I think you can install the snap ring in yours by just prying the stub shaft out
Put your pry bar on that U joint and force the axle out
I have a 30 inch prybar and pryed with all my might on that U joint but it wont come out any further, which made me believe I have the wrong hub? Or the spindle seal is preventing the axle from moving any further out, I do know the instructions said the axle snap ring must be installed on Dana 44 IFS.. which is what I have here
 
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And that is a factory Ford / Warn hub body too, right?
 
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Maybe you have 2 plastic seal rings in there for the spindle seal?
Did you have the spindle off that holds the spindle bearing?
You haven't doubled up on any of these seals have you?



 
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
Maybe you have 2 plastic seal rings in there for the spindle seal?
Did you have the spindle off that holds the spindle bearing?
You haven't doubled up on any of these seals have you?

that's a negative on the double seals, i slide the one seal at the end of the stub shaft and tapped in the other seal into the spindle itself after I drove the bearing all the way in.
so its put together essentially how the pictures you posted are.
 
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Just to verify that the hub is fully seated…Were you able to install the outer retaining ring?
 
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