Diesel to gasser
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Diesel to gasser
Currently seriously thinking of getting a new truck and the new 6.2 F250 really interest me. My current 03 Cummins Ram is starting to nickel and dime me to death. Everyone tells me to keep fixing but getting to a point I don't trust it anymore.
Main uses for me are pulling my Jayco 30.5 BHTS 5TH and hauling our high schools band enclosed 20ft trailer with instrusments to football games and competitions. Most camping trips are basically about 75 mile trip from the house with a pull of 4-5 hours to Myrtle or Charleston. I would say a trailer is hooked up to it about 20 times a year.
The basic question is how have guys with the same uses feel about going back to Gasser and would I be satisfied?
Main uses for me are pulling my Jayco 30.5 BHTS 5TH and hauling our high schools band enclosed 20ft trailer with instrusments to football games and competitions. Most camping trips are basically about 75 mile trip from the house with a pull of 4-5 hours to Myrtle or Charleston. I would say a trailer is hooked up to it about 20 times a year.
The basic question is how have guys with the same uses feel about going back to Gasser and would I be satisfied?
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I can't speak to going back to a gasser from a diesel. But, I can say that after a hard cost analysis, the gas is the more cost effective choice if you're not pulling constantly.
The analysis compared these costs over 18 years at 15k miles a year:
- New truck and payments
- Fuel
- Actual MPG (Sorry, a 8k pound diesel truck doesn't get 25mpg)
- Oil changes
- Fuel filters
- DEF
- 12 year resale value
In the end, the lower MPG of the gasser was still a bit cheaper than the diesel...Not including all the fun problems a diesel can have that a standard gasser V8 simply can't as it doesn't have the emissions and turbo to deal with.
I can send you the spreadsheet if you'd like.
The analysis compared these costs over 18 years at 15k miles a year:
- New truck and payments
- Fuel
- Actual MPG (Sorry, a 8k pound diesel truck doesn't get 25mpg)
- Oil changes
- Fuel filters
- DEF
- 12 year resale value
In the end, the lower MPG of the gasser was still a bit cheaper than the diesel...Not including all the fun problems a diesel can have that a standard gasser V8 simply can't as it doesn't have the emissions and turbo to deal with.
I can send you the spreadsheet if you'd like.
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Everything you are saying is what is making me think of gas truck. My drive to work is basically 9 miles from the house and I know that will kill the emissions system.
Dealer here in the upstate of SC has a 19 F250 STX for 39k. Only downside is from all my lurking in this website is the 3.73 rear end. Bought impossible to find the 4.30 here.
Dealer here in the upstate of SC has a 19 F250 STX for 39k. Only downside is from all my lurking in this website is the 3.73 rear end. Bought impossible to find the 4.30 here.
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The rough estimate max towing for 6.2L with 3.73 gears per the Ford site is 12,000 pounds.
The same engine with 4.30 gears has a towing limit of 15,000 pounds.
The tow limits for 5ver pulls are very similar. I recommend you review the Ford site for specific details.
If you are near the 12,000 limit, you might be happier with 4.30 gears. If not, then the others will do just fine.
What you really want to make sure and do it look at the GVWR, the GCWR and tow limits all as interactive info. Depending on the loads, the terrain, etc, you'll have to decide if you "need" 4.30 gears or not.
I came out of a 2006 Dmax into my 6.2L F250, and I love my new gasser engine. Has all the pep and pulling power I need. And the MUCH simpler design and application of the gasser makes me giggle with joy when I look under my hood and that of my buddy whom has a 6.7L PSD. My engine is FAR more simple and has FAR less things to go wrong in the long term.
If you watch TFLtruck at all (it's entertaining, but not really good scientific data), you can see an F250 XL truck they tested early this year. It pulled the max GCWR load of 19,500 pounds up their test route, and it did it running the entire route at the speed limit (60mph), And that truck had 3.73 gears!
The same engine with 4.30 gears has a towing limit of 15,000 pounds.
The tow limits for 5ver pulls are very similar. I recommend you review the Ford site for specific details.
If you are near the 12,000 limit, you might be happier with 4.30 gears. If not, then the others will do just fine.
What you really want to make sure and do it look at the GVWR, the GCWR and tow limits all as interactive info. Depending on the loads, the terrain, etc, you'll have to decide if you "need" 4.30 gears or not.
I came out of a 2006 Dmax into my 6.2L F250, and I love my new gasser engine. Has all the pep and pulling power I need. And the MUCH simpler design and application of the gasser makes me giggle with joy when I look under my hood and that of my buddy whom has a 6.7L PSD. My engine is FAR more simple and has FAR less things to go wrong in the long term.
If you watch TFLtruck at all (it's entertaining, but not really good scientific data), you can see an F250 XL truck they tested early this year. It pulled the max GCWR load of 19,500 pounds up their test route, and it did it running the entire route at the speed limit (60mph), And that truck had 3.73 gears!
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I believe you would be satisfied, I've gone back and forth myself. That STX for 39k sounds like a great price too. I would bring up one more concern coming from your truck, you have arguably the highest mpg full size truck ever built. Going to the 6.2 is going to be a big adjustment, and some can really struggle with the 6.2 avg mpg.
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If you are in no hurry just order the 4.30 geared truck. Usually about 8-9weeks for delivery. That isn't bad. I ordered mine and cant be happier. Super simple configured truck with no options I didnt want. Good luck. You can usually get just as good a deal on an ordered truck as ones on the lot.
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I believe you would be satisfied, I've gone back and forth myself. That STX for 39k sounds like a great price too. I would bring up one more concern coming from your truck, you have arguably the highest mpg full size truck ever built. Going to the 6.2 is going to be a big adjustment, and some can really struggle with the 6.2 avg mpg.
From what I see it would be 1/3 drop in all those numbers with the 6.2 3.73 rear end.
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If you are in no hurry just order the 4.30 geared truck. Usually about 8-9weeks for delivery. That isn't bad. I ordered mine and cant be happier. Super simple configured truck with no options I didnt want. Good luck. You can usually get just as good a deal on an ordered truck as ones on the lot.
Also worried about the 6 speed manual. Having some issues with the synchros going into 2nd and reverse from a stand still is getting tough. Trying to find someone to rebuild the NV5600 is tough.