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Will do. I have long suffering wife.
Gas guage didn't work so I ran out of gas before I go home. Battery wasn't strong enough to crank long enough to get gas to carb. Forgot my jumper cables and waited for 3 a for 3 hrs to get a roll off . All my wife said wasn't his wasn't the first time she had waited while I tinkered on a old truck. Said it wasn't her idea of a good date but after 33 years she had got used to it.
Gas guage didn't work so I ran out of gas before I go home. Battery wasn't strong enough to crank long enough to get gas to carb. Forgot my jumper cables and waited for 3 a for 3 hrs to get a roll off . All my wife said wasn't his wasn't the first time she had waited while I tinkered on a old truck. Said it wasn't her idea of a good date but after 33 years she had got used to it.
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High Boys: 1967/76 F250 4WD; 1977 F250 4WD before serial number Y20,001.
High Boys have a divorced transfer case and an in-cab fuel tank. Were available as a Cab & Chassis, Regular & Crew Cab. No Super Cabs (introduced in 1974 F100/350) were available.
1977 F250 4WD's from serial number Y20,001 are not High Boys, have a married transfer case, no in-cab fuel tank. In addition to the above, Super Cabs were available for the first time.
Serial number is the last 6 digits of the VIN
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No 360's after 1976. 1977 would have either a 351M or 400.
High Boys: 1967/76 F250 4WD; 1977 F250 4WD before serial number Y20,001.
High Boys have a divorced transfer case and an in-cab fuel tank. Were available as a Cab & Chassis, Regular & Crew Cab. No Super Cabs (introduced in 1974 F100/350) were available.
1977 F250 4WD's from serial number Y20,001 are not High Boys, have a married transfer case, no in-cab fuel tank. In addition to the above, Super Cabs were available for the first time.
Serial number is the last 6 digits of the VIN
High Boys: 1967/76 F250 4WD; 1977 F250 4WD before serial number Y20,001.
High Boys have a divorced transfer case and an in-cab fuel tank. Were available as a Cab & Chassis, Regular & Crew Cab. No Super Cabs (introduced in 1974 F100/350) were available.
1977 F250 4WD's from serial number Y20,001 are not High Boys, have a married transfer case, no in-cab fuel tank. In addition to the above, Super Cabs were available for the first time.
Serial number is the last 6 digits of the VIN
Bill,
So you are saying that, from the factory in 1977, Ford delivered divorced transfer case trucks (Hi-boys) with 335 series engines?
That would be a first for me...never seen one.
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351M: 1975/79 Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars; 1977/79 F100/350; 1978/82 Bronco; 1980/82 F150/350.
400: 1971/79 Ford/Mercury Passenger Cars; 1977/79 F100/350; 1978 (some) & 1979 Lincoln/Continental Mark V; 1978/82 Bronco; 1980/82 F150/350.
1980/83 F100: 302 largest V8 available, some of these trucks came with the anemic 255 V8, some 1982/83's came with the awful 3.8L 'miracle' V6.
If the timing cover didn't rot out before 40,000 miles, if the head gaskets didn't blow before 50,000 miles, it was a miracle!
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I haven't seen it all...but I have been around a dent or two.
My comments in blue.
I don't think factory divorced case trucks with 335 series engines were delivered by Ford.
See above correction.
I wouldn't bet the bank...but I have never heard of or seen a factory equipped divorced case/335 series dent.
Therefore, the OP's claim could very well be factory correct (although he didn't claim it to be...i followed you down this rabbit hole) of 1977 Hi Boy with an FE.
My comments in blue.
No 360's after serial number Y20,000. 1977 from Y20,001 would have either a 351M or 400.
High Boys: 1967/76 F250 4WD; 1977 F250 4WD before serial number Y20,001.
High Boys have a divorced transfer case and an in-cab fuel tank. Were available as a Cab & Chassis, Regular & Crew Cab. No Super Cabs (introduced in 1974 F100/350) were available.
1977 F250 4WD's from serial number Y20,001 are not High Boys, have a married transfer case, no in-cab fuel tank and have 335 series engines. In addition to the above, Super Cabs were available for the first time.
Serial number is the last 6 digits of the VIN
High Boys: 1967/76 F250 4WD; 1977 F250 4WD before serial number Y20,001.
High Boys have a divorced transfer case and an in-cab fuel tank. Were available as a Cab & Chassis, Regular & Crew Cab. No Super Cabs (introduced in 1974 F100/350) were available.
1977 F250 4WD's from serial number Y20,001 are not High Boys, have a married transfer case, no in-cab fuel tank and have 335 series engines. In addition to the above, Super Cabs were available for the first time.
Serial number is the last 6 digits of the VIN
I don't think factory divorced case trucks with 335 series engines were delivered by Ford.
See above correction.
I wouldn't bet the bank...but I have never heard of or seen a factory equipped divorced case/335 series dent.
Therefore, the OP's claim could very well be factory correct (although he didn't claim it to be...i followed you down this rabbit hole) of 1977 Hi Boy with an FE.
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Originally Posted by somethingclever
See above correction.
Where have all you naysayers been? High Boys and their available engines have been discussed on FTE long before I became a member (11/04/2006).
High Boys: 1967: 240/300/352 (352 cancelled at the end of the 1967 model run) / 1968/74: 240/300/360 (240 cancelled at the end of the 1974 model run) / 1975/76: 300/360 / 1977: 300/351M/400.
FoMoCo did not installed 390 engines with 4WD .. High Boys are not F100's, F150's, or F350's and are not 1977 F250's from serial number Y20,001.
#12
I stand by the correction that, per your post, in 1977 Ford made and delivered highboy trucks with 335 series engines.
You said FE stopped in 76, and all 77 and later trucks were 335 series (in v8 platform).
Then you said highboy's stopped in 77.5. Therefore, according to you, it's possible that Ford could have delivered an early 77 divorced case truck with a 351M or 400.
This I don't agree with.
You said FE stopped in 76, and all 77 and later trucks were 335 series (in v8 platform).
Then you said highboy's stopped in 77.5. Therefore, according to you, it's possible that Ford could have delivered an early 77 divorced case truck with a 351M or 400.
This I don't agree with.
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I stand by the correction that, per your post, in 1977 Ford made and delivered highboy trucks with 335 series engines.
You said FE stopped in 76, and all 77 and later trucks were 335 series (in v8 platform).
I didn't say this. I said the 351M/400 replaced FE's after 1976, but the 302 (F100/150) and 460 (F150/350) were also available, but only with 2WD
Then you said highboy's stopped in 77.5 (February 1977).
Therefore, according to you, it's possible that Ford could have delivered an early 77 divorced case truck with a 351M or 400.
I've said this...many times.
This I don't agree with.
You said FE stopped in 76, and all 77 and later trucks were 335 series (in v8 platform).
I didn't say this. I said the 351M/400 replaced FE's after 1976, but the 302 (F100/150) and 460 (F150/350) were also available, but only with 2WD
Then you said highboy's stopped in 77.5 (February 1977).
Therefore, according to you, it's possible that Ford could have delivered an early 77 divorced case truck with a 351M or 400.
I've said this...many times.
This I don't agree with.
No FE engines installed in cars after 1971, no FE engines installed in F100/350's after 1976.
1977 F250 4WD's assembled before serial number Y20,001 are High Boys (not official FoMoCo terminology).
1977 F250 4WD's assembled from serial number Y20,001 are not High Boys. Have a married transfer case, no in-cab fuel tank.
ALL High Boys have a divorced transfer case and in-cab fuel tank. 1977 High Boy available engines: 300 I-6; 351M 2V; 400 2V
High Boy: 1967/76 F250 4WD; 1977 F250 4WD before serial number Y20,001.
High Boy: Hot rodders term (coined in the 1940's) for 1932/34 Ford roadsters with their fenders, running boards and splash shields removed, exposing the bodies mounted atop the frame rails.
Hi-Boy: Antique furniture term for a circa 1750-1800 chest on chest (dresser).
You have two F250 4WD's but neither are High Boys as they're a 1978 and 1979. Your '78 F250 4WD is a Super Cab. Ford did not offer a High Boy Super Cab.
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Hi Bill,
You have a 2017 Fusion but it is not a Nascar body.
I never indicated that any truck listed in my signature is a highboy..not sure where you come up with this.
Regardless, I stand (ok, I'm sitting) corrected....it is true that for 1/2 model year....one could get a divorced case truck with a 335 series engine.
My buddy actually has one that I have worked on numerous times and built a 429 for it....the 351M was so gutless I must have removed it's existence from my short term memory.
You have a 2017 Fusion but it is not a Nascar body.
I never indicated that any truck listed in my signature is a highboy..not sure where you come up with this.
Regardless, I stand (ok, I'm sitting) corrected....it is true that for 1/2 model year....one could get a divorced case truck with a 335 series engine.
My buddy actually has one that I have worked on numerous times and built a 429 for it....the 351M was so gutless I must have removed it's existence from my short term memory.
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Hi Bill,
You have a 2017 Fusion but it is not a Nascar body.
No kidding...really? Gee whiz, the things one learns here on FTE!
I never indicated that any truck listed in my signature is a highboy..not sure where you come up with this.
Did I say they were High Boys? No I didn't.
You have a 2017 Fusion but it is not a Nascar body.
No kidding...really? Gee whiz, the things one learns here on FTE!
I never indicated that any truck listed in my signature is a highboy..not sure where you come up with this.
Did I say they were High Boys? No I didn't.
If you did, you wouldn't have typed this nonsense.
AFAIK, the Chevy Monte Carlo body is what NASCAR has been using for quite a while.
Prior to the Monte Carlo (which IMO was an ugly car), you could actually tell one auto makers car from another.
And btw: There has never been a 2 door Fusion or a Taurus/Sable either. Some NASCAR Ford and Mercs had Taurus/Sable names on them which was laughable.
Who the hell did they think they were fooling? Win on Sunday, sell on Monday, lotsa luck finding a 2 door Fusion/Taurus/Sable. No V8's in these cars either.