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1983 F100 XLS Black Trim

If someone could point me in the right direction to purchase basically all the right Black Window Trim for a Bullnose that would be great..or has anyone stripped and painted the chrome pieces and if so how...chemically/ just sandblasted them...any pics would be kool
 
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First you need the part numbers. I have the illustration and part number listings for the exterior trim here: Exterior Trim and Moulding - ???Gary's Garagemahal. But I don't understand "Black Window Trim". Do you mean the rear window?
 
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I think the OP is talking about the gloss black option windshield trim pieces. I think you will find that most, if not all, are obsolete with no old stock left. However, they were just painted versions of the bright trim style (anodized aluminum, not chromed steel) and you can just paint the parts yourself. They will need to be scuffed and cleaned, and some people recommend a paint adhesion promoter. Google search "aluminum surface paint prep". You will probably get better results than trying to piece together a set of NOS parts with storage damage etc., and old stock windshield trim pieces can get quite expensive.
 
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Jonathan - If he meant "windshield" and not "window" then I fully agree with you, painting the existing trim will be much less expensive than NOS - if he could find it.

Also, media-blasting that trim is almost certain to ruin the piece. They are very delicate and the heat from blasting would warp them very quickly.

An option to painting would be having them anodized black, which would probably last longer than paint.
 
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Thanx for the info guys
 
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Jonathan - If he meant "windshield" and not "window" then I fully agree with you, painting the existing trim will be much less expensive than NOS - if he could find it.

Also, media-blasting that trim is almost certain to ruin the piece. They are very delicate and the heat from blasting would warp them very quickly.

An option to painting would be having them anodized black, which would probably last longer than paint.
Very good points Gary... I "assumed" windshield trim because that is the only black window trim that I know of for the XLS. I'm not sure if anodizing could replicate the original look (gloss), but there might be gloss powder coating options out there. I looked into it a little, but I'm pretty far away from finalizing the trim details on my XLS-esque build.
 
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any pics F834?
 
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Also i am looking for a Blue Dash Pad or a replica one that looks good
 
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any pics F834?
My truck that is getting the XLS trim treatment is here:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l-project.html

However, there is currently not much XLS about it. I have a stunning NOS instrument bezel and XLS nameplate (thanks to 1986F150six), and a pair of NOS gloss black option headlight doors. And that's it. I'm working on cloning a brushed silver radio bezel to match, but so far I've only discovered some things that ~don't work. My truck is a crew cab, so I'm not going to pursue the vinyl stripes.

How about you, what are you working on?

Edit: you posted pictures while I was typing. Neat!
 
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Very good points Gary... I "assumed" windshield trim because that is the only black window trim that I know of for the XLS. I'm not sure if anodizing could replicate the original look (gloss), but there might be gloss powder coating options out there. I looked into it a little, but I'm pretty far away from finalizing the trim details on my XLS-esque build.
I'm not sure the windshield trim will survive the ~400 degree heat for curing powder as it may turn into a pretzel. I've considered trying it myself since I powder coat, but haven't. And, for powder to adhere well the surface needs to have a "tooth", which will require sanding since I doubt media-blasting is a good idea.

So, painting or anodizing would be my suggestion.
 
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I'm not sure the windshield trim will survive the ~400 degree heat for curing powder as it may turn into a pretzel. I've considered trying it myself since I powder coat, but haven't. And, for powder to adhere well the surface needs to have a "tooth", which will require sanding since I doubt media-blasting is a good idea.

So, painting or anodizing would be my suggestion.
Thanks Gary,

That's good to know. I thought the powder coat temps would be okay since aluminum melts at ~1,200*F (?) but I was not thinking about warp. If I actually do the black trim, I want it to be gloss like the headlight doors which leaves paint. I just checked a FB discussion that I had with one of the diesel guys, and he blacked out all of the trim on his truck using Krylon Fusion (formulated to stick to plastics). His trim has been painted for several years now and still looks great. I was hoping for something a little more "special" than just paint, but if it works... this is his truck (recent photo)



The NOS headlight doors are really sharp, and the reason I am after gloss trim:

 
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Another problem with aluminum is the porosity, which allows junk to hide in the pores. Then, when you bake the part the junk vaporizes and blows the powder off, ruining the finish. The solution is to back the part for an hour at 400 degrees in order to vaporize the junk, then take the part out and rinse it with solvent before coating it with powder.

That's why I'm not sure the windshield trim would survive without becoming a pretzel. But, if you really want to try it I have pieces with that won't be used due to their dings, so can easily use one as a sacrificial lamb. I could test it in the near future and, if it survives, we could do a full set at the GTG.
 
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Jonathan - If he meant "windshield" and not "window" then I fully agree with you, painting the existing trim will be much less expensive than NOS - if he could find it.
Of the 5 black windshield mouldings, 4 are available NOS .. The only one I couldn't find was the lower (E2TZ-1003148-A).
 
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Of the 5 black windshield mouldings, 4 are available NOS .. The only one I couldn't find was the lower (E2TZ-1003148-A).
Thanks, Bill. My bet is that this stuff is EXPENSIVE! I looked at NOS bright trim for Dad's truck and it was more than I wanted to pay, and if the black stuff is the last in existence the prices may be really jacked up.

And, the probability of creating a piece that truly matches is very slim. So, I think you either need a full NOS set (and deep pockets to go with it) or make your own.
 


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