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On a side note, Apoc, I would recommend getting these for your new brakes. They are sold in pairs, so buy two set.

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Wrap the threads when you put them in so when you are bleeding the brakes they don't pull air in threw the threads.
 
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I hope I'm not hijacking this thread, but I, too, am shopping for brake pads this morning. I recently bought a 2005 Excursion with 80k miles. The brake pads and rotors look absolutely brand new, and they SQUEAK badly. I mean they squeak LIKE CRAZY every single time I tap the brakes. They stop perfectly fine, but something has to be done.

My experience and the research I've done lead me to believe that the brakes were replaced, and didn't go back together just right. Either some shims were omitted or some "high performance" pads were used with a non-OEM composition, or both.

I think OEM or OEM-style pads with proper hardware should solve this with a minimum of expense and trouble. Here's what I would like opinions on:

1) With virgin-looking, stock-appearing rotors, should I leave them, machine them, or replace them?

2) Choose new pads (prices for both axles on RockAuto):
Motorcraft (Ford) OE $123.
Wagner OE-style $50.
Raybestos OE $36.
AC Delco $39.
Bosch $42.
 
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Prescott, They probably used metallic/semi metallic type, since you had trouble with noise, i would try oem, the other look like semi metallic
 
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They probably used metallic/semi metallic type, since you had trouble with noise, i would try oem, the other look like semi metallic
Thanks. I agree. Is it possible to add a sound-deadening device or treatment to the existing parts, and side-step replacement? Shims, or maybe that glue. I've not tried this ever. I don't know if it's worth a try.
 
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Originally Posted by Prescott

1) With virgin-looking, stock-appearing rotors, should I leave them, machine them, or replace them?
Just put the pads on and you should be fine. I would check to see that the rotor has a smooth surface from the inner portion all the way to the edge though.
 
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My truck had OEM pads and squealed like crazy on light brake applications. I had to get on them hard to not squeal. I found that when I washed the truck, they were quiet for a day. I tested that by spraying a hose into the wheel openings (on cold brakes of course) until the black brake residue quit coming out from there and they would be quiet for a day or so. Now that I have the Powerstop kit, I haven't heard a peep whether they are clean or dirty.
 
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DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Prescott
I hope I'm not hijacking this thread, but I, too, am shopping for brake pads this morning. I recently bought a 2005 Excursion with 80k miles. The brake pads and rotors look absolutely brand new, and they SQUEAK badly. I mean they squeak LIKE CRAZY every single time I tap the brakes. They stop perfectly fine, but something has to be done.

My experience and the research I've done lead me to believe that the brakes were replaced, and didn't go back together just right. Either some shims were omitted or some "high performance" pads were used with a non-OEM composition, or both.

I think OEM or OEM-style pads with proper hardware should solve this with a minimum of expense and trouble. Here's what I would like opinions on:

1) With virgin-looking, stock-appearing rotors, should I leave them, machine them, or replace them?

2) Choose new pads (prices for both axles on RockAuto):
Motorcraft (Ford) OE $123.
Wagner OE-style $50.
Raybestos OE $36.
AC Delco $39.
Bosch $42.
What are you using to lube the sliders and brake hardware?
 
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DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!!
"So what you do it get some used WD-40 from a garage sale, then you wipe everything down and the problem will go away..."

 
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Quick question. These powerstop kits. Are they getting installed because they are better than stock? Or are they getting installed to replace the worn out OEM stuff?
It would be nice to know if they lower the distance to stop from 60 mph.
 
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They are a upgraded rotor, not sure on the pad compound. But the calipers are a remanufactured unit. If you are upgrading consider the stainless lines aand speed bleeders during install.

I will say the weight of these trucks and Excursions are lacking in the factory braking setup. I went with the Hawk pads and Powerslot Cryo treated rotors. Next brake upgrade will be the Stainless lines.
 
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These powerstop kits. Are they getting installed because they are better than stock? Or are they getting installed to replace the worn out OEM stuff?
Good question! If you look at the product, you get a rebuilt caliper with a shiny red finish on it, a fancy looking cross-drilled rotor, and mystery pads. I'm glad customers are happy with it, but how do you quantify that it is truly an "upgrade". When you need new brake parts, any new parts represent an upgrade. Are they better than new stock parts? Hard to say for sure. They definitely look cool and trendy, and that is reason enough for some buyers to love them. Style is worth something, but you have to admit that stock parts are probably cheaper. I'm not trying to be a total dink about this, but does anyone out there have any hard numbers?
 


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