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Old Dec 20, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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1969 F600 vin

I just purchased a 1969 F600 flatbed dump that has a V8 engine and I need to know which engine and carb due to the carb is leaking and trying to find a rebuild kit. This is supose to have a 4 speed forward and two reverse transmission and it has a red button on the gear shifter, what is it for? Vin number is F61CEE27575 Thanks for any help
 

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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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the red button is to operate your split axel, which make it an 8 speed and 2 reverse
 
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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I found out it is a 360 and I was able to buy a rebuild kit for the carb... I purchased this truck for $350.00 and had just a leak from the carb. It has a twin cyl dump bed also I have to drive it 250 miles now to get it home the thing that caught my eye with this truck was everything is origional all the way to the water bag for the windshield washer. Thanks for the help on the transmission button.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by lovtorun39
F61CEE27575
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F61 = F600 2WD

C = 330 2V Medium Duty FT Engine.

E = Mahwah NJ Assembly Plant

E27575 = 1969.

Originally Posted by lovtorun39
I found out it is a 360.
How did you determine that it's a 360, from the carb kit you bought?

The same 2V carb kit (D4AZ9A586A-Motorcraft CT499D) fits ALL 1962/74 Passenger Cars, F100/350's, Bronco's, Econolines and...

B/C/F/N/NT/T500 and larger trucks with the 330 2V FT engine.

A 360 is an FE engine, which were installed in 1968/76 F100/350's only.

FE engines (352/360/390 and etc.) were not installed in any truck larger than an F350.

 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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NAPA store owner losses job....:)

I went to Napa with the Carb in hand and the Vin Number. The owner came out and helped figure it out. Thanks so much when I was looking at buying the truck I was looking at other trucks for sale and all of them had 330 engines and when I asked the owner he said he didnt know anything about engines and the guy he bought it from told him it was a 360. Well now Im needing new plug wires and plugs before Saturday when I drive this baby home to be repainted and used on my sand farm. For $350 dollars I dont think I got a bad deal a little love and this truck will be rolling again. Now I have to find out how to get the bed hydrolics to work when I get it home........

Thanks for the nowledge that has left this world with the minds that created it.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lovtorun39
I went to Napa with the Carb in hand and the Vin Number. The owner came out and helped figure it out. Thanks so much when I was looking at buying the truck I was looking at other trucks for sale and all of them had 330 engines and when I asked the owner he said he didnt know anything about engines and the guy he bought it from told him it was a 360.
If it has a 360, it was swapped in.

Most sellers (and most people in general) haven't a single clue what engines were used in these older Ford trucks, whether it's an F100 or an F750.

Usually a buddy, gas station attendant, or a "shade tree" mechanic looks at the engine then says it's a _____

The FT engines (330 M/D, 330 H/D, 361 & 391) look very similar to FE engines, some of the parts are the same.

The dizzy cap/points/condenser/rotor are the same for most 1957/73 Ford V8 engines. The plug wires will be the same as 1958/73 FE engines.

Since Ford offered the 361 FT engine from 1964 thru 1978, it's possible that's the engine your truck has in it...now.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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FT engines had the EGR ports between the center two exhaust ports and the dump was in the center and the FE engines had a log manifold with the dump at the back. IIRC..............ron
 
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Originally Posted by Ron/RPMS
FT engines had the EGR ports between the center two exhaust ports and the dump was in the center and the FE engines had a log manifold with the dump at the back.
Since there is no such thing as EGR ports or log manifolds used with EGR valves, you are describing T/E = Thermactor Emission System (smog pump).

1966/67 and some very early 1968 F100's sold new in CA had T/E. No other F Series truck had T/E until 1973.

The first year EGR valves were installed on F100/350's, Passenger Cars, Bronco's and Econolines was in 1973.

The first year F500 and larger trucks had EGR valves was in 1975.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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Maybe EGR port was the wrong term, should it have been ECOP (exhaust cross over passage)?
On my 3.78x4.110 FE there is a passage in the #2 and #7 exhaust port in my C8AE-6090-C heads that allows exhaust gas go to the intake face and then under my C7AE-9425-F intake manifold.Ports without passage flowed just a little over 200 CFM at 28" vac. had to weld the cracks and passage in the intake where exhaust was leaking there.
havent delt to much with stock stuff as i have been doing performance building since 84,so not rally sure about the whole EGR thing.

Now back to the original intent of my answer: i havent looked at everyone that was made but IIRC from about 20 years ago that the FT had some exaust passages that were in the middle of the head between the center two exhaust ports and an FE does not. The FT has a center dump exhaust and the most common FE manifolds have a rear dump(ex mustangs , cougars and othe shock tower cars.) IF you switched the manifolds between the two you will end up with exhaust leaks.

Now from 10 feet away if i see a center dump manifold i would suspect a FT and if it had a rear dump log manifold i would suspect a FE.

Now if thats not right i may have passed up some good stuff in the juckyard with my 10 second ID.
Just some things i observed..................ron
 

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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron/RPMS
Maybe EGR port was the wrong term, should it have been ECOP (exhaust cross over passage)?
Should have been T/E = Thermactor Emission.

On my 3.78x4.110 FE there is a passage in the #2 and #7 exhaust port in my C8AE-6090-C heads that allows exhaust gas go to the intake face and then under my C7AE-9425-F intake manifold.Ports without passage flowed just a little over 200 CFM at 28" vac. had to weld the cracks and passage in the intake where exhaust was leaking.
The Ford ID number C8AE-6090-C head (Ford part number: C8AZ-6049-A) was factory installed when Thermactor Emission was present on 1968/70 390/428 passenger cars and 1968 F100 360/390's

This same head was a service part replacement for the T/E heads used on 1966/67: Passenger Cars (352/390/410/428) and F100's (352), so it's possible to find these heads on 1966/67 vehicles.

Today, considering parts swapping, this head could be found on any FE engine from any year.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Welcome to FTE

F61 = F600 2WD

C = 330 2V Medium Duty FT Engine.

E = Mahwah NJ Assembly Plant

E27575 = 1969.


How did you determine that it's a 360, from the carb kit you bought?

The same 2V carb kit (D4AZ9A586A-Motorcraft CT499D) fits ALL 1962/74 Passenger Cars, F100/350's, Bronco's, Econolines and...

B/C/F/N/NT/T500 and larger trucks with the 330 2V FT engine.

A 360 is an FE engine, which were installed in 1968/76 F100/350's only.

FE engines (352/360/390 and etc.) were not installed in any truck larger than an F350.

Hey Bill,
I know this is a VERY old thread, but it made me think to get in touch with you. I have a 69 F250 390 2v, and installed an F600 instrument cluster. The temp guage reads high. What are the choices for sending units for the F600 and do you have resistance values for each?
Thanks!
 
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The temp gauges are erratic on all old Ford trucks. The only 'fixum' is installing a direct reading temp gauge.
 
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The temp gauges are erratic on all old Ford trucks. The only 'fixum' is installing a direct reading temp gauge.
Well, poop! I was hoping for maybe a miracle! LoL.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by doug51f1
Well, poop! I was hoping for maybe a miracle! LoL.
Signor Ferrari (Sydney Greenstreet) to Victor Laszlo (Paul Henreid):

"It'll take a miracle to get you out of Casablanca and the Germans have outlawed miracles." - Casablanca (WB:1942)

He and his wife Isla (Ingrid Berman) did get out, using the letters of transit.
 
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Originally Posted by doug51f1
Well, poop! I was hoping for maybe a miracle! LoL.
Ask and you will receive.
Buy a temp sender for a F500/750. Simple. Various years of Bump pickups took a couple different part number temp senders. Both were "stamped 260" and were 3/8"-18 pipe thread. While various Bump F500/750 took a couple temp senders both of which were "stamped 230". Ford Motorcraft part number D0HZ10884A for the bigger trucks is stamped 230, 3/8" pipe, and still available from Ford. I didn't look in Dent era F500/750 if the same sender. I don't know what year your cluster is.
Does this make me King Victor?
 
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