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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 02:36 PM
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What year did this happen to you, Walleye?
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It's been over 5 years since I had that experience. What the stuff was that I used is hard to say as I thought that there were only two types of anti-freeze and my knowledge on it was minimal at the time. I thought it said, "compatible with all types of anti-freeze", on it. I'm not even sure if it was red or orange but I'm thinking it was orange. And after I was done with that I told myself that it would never happen to me a second time.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 02:39 PM
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I posted this link back in post #16 but since you are a busy guy here it is again I also posted a pic I cut and pasted from their Technical bulletin showing the ec-1 listing.

http://content.valvoline.com/pdf/Zer...l_Bulletin.pdf

Seems to me valvoline claims the g-05 coolant the op used meets the Cat EC-1 spec.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2016 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
I posted this link back in post #16 but since you are a busy guy here it is again I also posted a pic I cut and pasted from their Technical bulletin showing the ec-1 listing.

http://content.valvoline.com/pdf/Zer...l_Bulletin.pdf

Seems to me valvoline claims the g-05 coolant the op used meets the Cat EC-1 spec.
Ah, I see you too have now become accustomed to my frequent, but irregular manner of missing things in a post, or even complete posts in a thread, eh?

Thanks, I'll click the link a little later and check it out.

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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 06:51 AM
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Well I had to work late yesterday. So no new coolant.
I did go by a few big box type stores and look for demineralized water.
All I saw was deionized.
Would the deionized water be sufficient for a flush. Going to try to do it after work today.
Thanks again for much needed help
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 08:39 AM
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Just go to your local grocery store (well probably a couple for the amount you will need) and get the distilled water.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 09:33 AM
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Yup, grocery store distilled water. Under a buck a gallon
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Seems to me valvoline claims the g-05 coolant the op used meets the Cat EC-1 spec.


Well, I guess we can no longer just tell people to look for the EC-1 rating on the coolant now when they're trying to find a HD OAT ELC.

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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
I posted this link back in post #16
Oh wow, I just now saw post number 21 too, after posting the one just above this one.



Did you have that screen grab posted originally? Or did you add it after?

Yeesh, my brain and eyes.....

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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
Oh wow, I just now saw post number 21 too, after posting the one just above this one.



Did you have that screen grab posted originally? Or did you add it after?

Yeesh, my brain and eyes.....

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I posted it with the original post.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 02:12 PM
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stewart ALERT

did you see the picture and link in post 26 showing What the EC-1 spec is ? ( or at least a summary of it )
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 02:35 PM
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I bought 30 gallons of distilled water when I swapped to ELC while replacing the water pump on my truck. I am on well water at the house, so using the water hose was not an option.

I simply fired the truck up and pulled the return hose off the drivers side of the degas bottle and plumbed it into an empty jug. I also removed the thermostat, so that the coolant would flow constantly. Then I just kept an eye on the degas bottle level and poured more distilled water into it when required. I did this until the coolant/water coming out of the engine ran clear.

Once the water was clear, I drained the system from the radiator and re-filled it with concentrate Rotella ELC from TSC.

Worked great.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2016 | 04:20 PM
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That one where you pointed out the EC-1 spec is defined by performance, not chemical make-up I did see, Camo.

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Old Sep 1, 2016 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tigwelder
Zerex g-05 . Is the coolant I used. Just looked at empty jugs in backof truck

The Zerex G-05 coolant you installed is fine. The Zerex Specs state that it meets Ford WSS-M97B51-A1. The Motorcraft Service Coolant bulletin clearly states that coolant meeting Ford WSS-M97B51-A1 is appropriate for 2002 model year Super Duty trucks.

It does not matter when your 2002 was built, nor where it was built... the G-05 is compatible. However, for trivia's sake:

- If the first digit of your VIN begins with the number 1, then your Super Duty was made in Kentucky, and originally came with Gold (aka Yellow) coolant.

- If the first digit of your VIN begins with the number 3, then your Super Duty was made at the Cuautitlan plant in Mexico. If so, then your build date now factors into the equation. If built PRIOR to February 4, 2002, then your Super Duty originally came with GREEN coolant, meeting a different Ford Spec ESE-M97B44-A.

Since you are the original owner, and you say you were running the original water pump, and presumably, the original coolant, then all those factors together suggest that your 2002 was built in Mexico prior to 2/4/2. HOWEVER, Ford also states that despite this truck being originally filled with GREEN coolant, the GOLD (aka YELLOW) coolant IS ALSO APPROVED.

Furthermore, Ford states that it is OK that these coolants be MIXED, as long as the service/maintenance schedule for the GREEN coolant is followed. So there is no need to panic or flush out your system.

- IF you wish to follow the service interval for the YELLOW coolant, and your original coolant was GREEN, only THEN would you need to completely flush your coolant system to get rid of all traces of green coolant trapped in your block, etc, so that you could follow the longer service interval for yellow coolant.

- If your truck was built in Mexico, but the build date was AFTER 2/4/2, then your truck originally came with Yellow coolant, and someone along the way snuck some green coolant into your truck when you weren't looking. Either way, it doesn't matter, because both Green AND Yellow coolant are APPROVED by Ford for the 2002 model year. There is no need to worry about injector cup sealant compatibility here.

- If your truck were an early 1999 model year built in 1998, the story would be quite different. Between the two Ford coolant specs discussed in this post, the early 1999 model year can only use Green coolant. Yellow coolant is incompatible, and not recommended by Ford, even if a full flush is performed.

Other coolant chemistries are discussed in the posts above and in the link that Stewart provided, however the intention of this post is to simply put your mind at ease as far as the compatibility of the coolant you installed. Whether or not it is the best coolant is another matter often debated, but according to the service information concerning the Ford coolant specs, you are not doing any harm running what you have, as long as you follow the original service recommendations.

Supporting Links:

The original PDFs would not load for me, so here are Google's cached versions:

Service Coolant Information

Zerex G-05 Approval Specs
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 05:57 AM
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Thanks y2k.
That's a helpful list. Iv never seen before.
I bought my truck second hand. It had 115k on it . And was owned by a lawyer in houston.
When I bought the truck the owner gave me a business card from mechanic shop that did his service.
I've spoken to them several times in the last 150k miles. There always helpful and keep great records of service's.
My vin starts with 1 .So I guess this shop changed coolant to green in the first 115k miles.
I've picked up 30 gallons of water and 4 gallons of new coolant.Going to try tonight to flush it.
But a ?
If someone were to run hose from 3/8 port under thermostat. Could it be flushed from there by adding water to degass bottle and cranking truck.
Just don't want to use inline flush kit .
I'm on we'll water.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2016 | 07:50 PM
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