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identifying model of transfer case
Is there a number cast into the casing or a tag that would tell me the model of it? If so where would it be found? Thanks.
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There's a tag on the case just like a differential tag. It will have it on there. Really though you probably have either a Borg Warner 1356 or a Borg Warner 4407. You can tell quickly by just looking. The 1356 has a slip yoke meaning that the rear driveshaft just slides up into it. The 4407 has a short shaft with a flange on it and the rear DS has a flange as well that will bolt up to it.
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thank you very much, I will go and look.
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hey redman, did u think of a price on that e40d?
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Mine is a 4407.
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I figured being a 96 and all. The internals are essentially the same. The case is beefier and the rear DS hookup is a little better than the slip yoke style. Seems like I've heard of them leaking.
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Originally Posted by redman84
(Post 9161850)
There's a tag on the case just like a differential tag. It will have it on there. Really though you probably have either a Borg Warner 1356 or a Borg Warner 4407. You can tell quickly by just looking. The 1356 has a slip yoke meaning that the rear driveshaft just slides up into it. The 4407 has a short shaft with a flange on it and the rear DS has a flange as well that will bolt up to it.
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
(Post 9316370)
I have a 1356 with a flange on the back of my 96 not a slip yolk
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
(Post 9316370)
I have a 1356 with a flange on the back of my 96 not a slip yolk
The case is different to hold the slip seal vs flange. They are 2 different units. :-huh |
Originally Posted by wildstang
(Post 9317490)
Does that have the pto option /cover on it?
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So is the 4407 a better t-case than the 1356?
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Originally Posted by wildstang
(Post 9161754)
Is there a number cast into the casing or a tag that would tell me the model of it? If so where would it be found? Thanks.
Update Could not find much other than some cases had id tags attached and some used stick on bar codes BW1356 FULL SIZE BRONCO(F-150/250) 1987-96 BW4407F F250/350 1996-98 BW4406F F-150/250/EXPEDITION, NAVIGATOR 1997-UP AXLE INFO- http://lelandbrake.com/images/catalog/006-011.pdf |
Originally Posted by DRRXR
(Post 9319713)
I will do some checking in my cat for some more info and then repost
Update Could not find much other than some cases had id tags attached and some used stick on bar codes BW1356 FULL SIZE BRONCO(F-150/250) 1987-96 BW4407F F250/350 1996-98 BW4406F F-150/250/EXPEDITION, NAVIGATOR 1997-UP AXLE INFO- http://lelandbrake.com/images/catalog/006-011.pdf I would like a definite answer, if possible, if the 350 yoke would fit the 250 shaft. Some have said it would. |
Originally Posted by wildstang
(Post 9322010)
I would like a definite answer, if possible, if the 350 yoke would fit the 250 shaft. Some have said it would.
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In another thread on the D60 swap I have asked the same type questions and someone said I need to get the yoke from a f350 that had an e4od like mine and they were only in 96-97 years, because the standard trans used a different transfer case. I bought one from a guy and he said it was from a 97 f350 dually that had the pto cover on the case, but I am not sure if that was a standard trans, will need to ask. If that is true then the standard trans transfer case has a smaller out put shaft for the 4x4.
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Partial Answer
[Ouote] question but did the 4407 come with and without the pto option [.Ouote]
http://kingomatic.com/documents/WebT...ansferCase.pdf |
Thank you DRRXR for the reference chart. The only odd thing with it is there is nother listed for 95 and older F350.
The guy I bought the first one through says he just pulled three others and, from auto and standard trans, and say they all look like the one he sent. I emailed him back to make sure they were 96-97 and if the tags were on them to see if they said 4407. Not sure if this makes a difference or not but my truck has the heavier weight rated ttp 50. |
Jim
I cant find squat either on a pre 96 Still lookin though |
Wouldn't surprise me if ford threw some odd ball T case into my truck. Is there a place that would say what the output shaft diameter should be? Or if the same for the 250/350? Very perplexing.:confused:
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food for thought
Originally Posted by wildstang
(Post 9323598)
Wouldn't surprise me if ford threw some odd ball T case into my truck. Is there a place that would say what the output shaft diameter should be? Or if the same for the 250/350? Very perplexing.:confused:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...the-water.html Even more http://www.powerstrokenation.com/for...3996&showall=1 |
Funny, sounds like my situation, well not really funny.
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I was looking at this a couple days ago.
4407F was used in the 250 and 350, but only behind the E4OD and only in 96 and 97. Yokes seem to be impossible to get. |
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I just got a 1356 BW for free!! Also a ZF5 4x4 tranny...
the BW has a slip in rear yoke, but on that yoke, the drive shaft bolts to... Attachment 203498 That yoke slides in and out and the drive shaft bolts to it.... |
Mustangmat. They are talking about the front drive shaft/ yolk
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
(Post 9327189)
Mustangmat. They are talking about the front drive shaft/ yolk
Can you tell what it is? |
That chart linked above is not totally acurate. I had a '95 F-350 with a 1356.
Matt, it's a 1356, slip in rear yoke. |
Ford seems inconsistent also. They just pull whatever fits that they have in the bin.
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Kinda resurrecting a dead horse here. But just some more info for anyone needing it. My 97 was auto with 4407 tcase, no slip yoke front or rear, and I swaped to a hand shaker last year. The two went together without a hitch, and I've been beatin the crap outta it since.
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