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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Hawk LTS BRAKE PADS

Hey everyone I have to do the brakes on all four wheels on the X and I wanted to know how well you all like the Hawk LTS pad I have always used wagners , I tow a 7500 lbs tt . I found the Hawk pad front and rear for 156.00 for all is this a good price or is that high any info is appreciated thanks Dan
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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I have been very happy with my LTS pads, I only installed them in the front and if my memory serves me I paid $74 just for the front last September.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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I got my Hawk LTS pads from tirerack.com and had them shipped next day. The total was $206.19 and that included the $53.19 for shipping.

That made the pads $153 by themselves, so I would say $156 is pretty good.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by EXCURSION DAN
Hey everyone I have to do the brakes on all four wheels on the X and I wanted to know how well you all like the Hawk LTS pad I have always used wagners , I tow a 7500 lbs tt . I found the Hawk pad front and rear for 156.00 for all is this a good price or is that high any info is appreciated thanks Dan
If you tow that much you might want to look into bumping up to the Hawk SuperDuty pads. I have them on my Dodge and they work very well either towing or just driving around town. I'm about to have to do breaks on my Excursion as well and that is what I'll be using.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gr8scott72
If you tow that much you might want to look into bumping up to the Hawk SuperDuty pads. I have them on my Dodge and they work very well either towing or just driving around town. I'm about to have to do breaks on my Excursion as well and that is what I'll be using.
How do the Hawk SuperDuty's compare to the LTS ? Neither is ceramic I'm assuming - Is there any drawbacks to using the SuperDuty's as opposed to the LTS ?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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I tow 9000#'s and have logged about 2000 towing miles (give or take a little) since installing them and they have not given me any reason to not like them yet.

Towing season starts in a couple of months and I'll log probably 5000 miles this summer if not more towing...

I went with Hawk LTS and OEM style Bendix rotors when I changed my brakes. I had $70 for the front set of LTS pads from a local auto shop and $80 for both front rotors...

Pricing is very sporadic from what I have seen...so shop around.

An FTE sponsor just started brakepadwarehouse.com so check them out too...they used to offer a 5% discount at shockwarehouse.com and now they are offering a 10% discount by entering the code 'launch' at checkout on Brake Pads, Brake Rotors - Brakepad Warehouse...not sure what they are charging but I'd check them out...I have NO idea if they carry Hawk LTS pads...but I'd give them a call if their website doesn't show it...you never know.

Good luck,
Joe.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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i have put napa rotors and pads on my EX. a buddy owns the napa store in roan mountain tn. he has always stood behid the parts he sells. if i need a part that he does not have in stock, he will order it and then have it the next morning.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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All I see on the brakepadwarehouse.com site is pads by Monroe.....
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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I'm not crazy about mine. They need to be heated before they work well, and the superduty should need even more heat to work at their intended performance level. They aren't bad, just not what I expected for $75 pads.
 
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Thanks for all the info guys .
Dan
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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When I replaced my OEM pads for Hawk LTS pads at all 4 corners, my first impression was, "Holy milk producer! I can't believe the improvement from pads alone!" I later also replaced my front rotors with NAPA units (old pieces were warping when hot). FYI, '05 EB X with about 55K miles. I have maintained my own vehicles since 1974, and I cannot recall such an improvement in stopping power from just changing pads. Great stuff.

Disclaimer: I do not know how long they will last ... though I'm certain to find out.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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I'm not crazy about mine. They need to be heated before they work well, and the superduty should need even more heat to work at their intended performance level. They aren't bad, just not what I expected for $75 pads.
Maybe the Superduty pads don't need the preheat because I can mash the brake pedal and it stops my Durango with the same feel if they are cold or warm from repetative usage, towing or not.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 04:53 AM
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I have noticed my LTS pads are VERY slippery for the first few low speed stops say when I'm pulling out of my driveway or tuning around in my parking garage at work when going home. Once they get a lil bit of heat in em they do very well. I had to chase down a hit and run driver in my truck and I was speeding down a street then slamming on the brakes to go around a turn over and over for a good 10 minutes and they never faded on me at all. I think the brake fluid was giving out before the pads honestly lol.

I run powerslot cryo rotors on the front, and my rear is whatever was on the truck when I bought it. I will be replacing the rear soon do to some "warping" and will just go with a quality parts store rotor and see what they have for pads. Maybe I'll give the performance frictions a shot in back, I always seemed to like those.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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That's the big problem with these high performance brake pads. It's hardly ever that the pads fail from the heat, but they produce so much heat the water in the brake fluid boils (or starts to vaporize) and now you have hydraulic fluid pressing on air pressing on hydraulic fluid trying to press on pads and you get no pressure to the calipers. The better the pads or braking duty, the more often and better the brake fluid needs to be replaced. I am happy with my PF Z-rated fluid, but when I run out, I'm going to try the stock HD Ford fluid. The boiling points are close, but the ford stuff is slightly higher and a tiny bit cheaper.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ReAX
That's the big problem with these high performance brake pads. It's hardly ever that the pads fail from the heat, but they produce so much heat the water in the brake fluid boils (or starts to vaporize) and now you have hydraulic fluid pressing on air pressing on hydraulic fluid trying to press on pads and you get no pressure to the calipers. The better the pads or braking duty, the more often and better the brake fluid needs to be replaced. I am happy with my PF Z-rated fluid, but when I run out, I'm going to try the stock HD Ford fluid. The boiling points are close, but the ford stuff is slightly higher and a tiny bit cheaper.
Alot of people doing auto-x racing actually use the Ford HD fluid. Supposed to be good stuff.
 
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