All advice welcome, newbie here!
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All advice welcome, newbie here!
My dad just gave me a 1941 Ford Pickup, she's got a 50 flathead under the hood. I am not a stranger to old cars, just this one! I am looking forward to learning and sharing here!
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I would never chop it up!! This one was my dad's for about 15 years, I wokred on it with him as a little girl. I love the flathead, aside from a few bugs that I am working out now all I want to do is restore it! ALthough, your uni is pretty cool looking...
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The Uni is a daily driver when I'm in the lower 48. She is at my brothers in western Colorado. She has been halfway across the states 3 times and loves it. Hope ya do the same with yours. I would luv ta help ya on yours all I can. How's the 50 Flattie running?
There is some really good Flattie Guy's on here.
And most of all. Welcome to FTE
NumberDummy is next door to ya and is the best sorce for part numbers and part's. Hope he checks this out
There is some really good Flattie Guy's on here.
And most of all. Welcome to FTE
NumberDummy is next door to ya and is the best sorce for part numbers and part's. Hope he checks this out
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Thanks for the warm welcome! The flatty is good, back when the truck was a daily it ran great! Just hasn't been running in 8 years, so I am working on getting her started again. Last night I had to pull the starter, it always had a problem getting hung on on the flywheel, but yesterday none of the usual tricks worked, so I pulled it and it looks like crap. I am asking around, thinking about getting it rebuilt if it isn't too far gone, or replacing it. But then there is the "new technology" starters to consider. Decisions...
I just remember driving that truck all over and I want her running again. My dad had trailered her back to tennessee with him when he moved and then just never had any time to work on it, so he finally brought her back here to cali and handed her over!
I just remember driving that truck all over and I want her running again. My dad had trailered her back to tennessee with him when he moved and then just never had any time to work on it, so he finally brought her back here to cali and handed her over!
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Put the later starter on Her and go with 12 volt positive ground. Thous kind of upgrades is what helps make it a daily driver. Power assist for the new shoe brakes and power steering. Than she is good ta go every day all day.
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Welcome from Montana also! Personally I think the 41 is one of the prettiest trucks Ford ever built, but I drive a 48 as my daily. A bunch of us flatheaders hang out in the 48-60 forum, but also check the flathead engine group as well.
The starter bendix assembly can be replaced as a unit if your's in worn out. Sacramento Vintage Ford is great to do business with and prices have always been reasonable.
A couple of things to check - you should have had an 'L' shaped bracket on one of the starter mounting bolts that connected to an oil pan bolt. If that is missing - and many are - the starter moves around too much and binds on the flywheel. Otherwise it could just be that the teeth on the bendix or ring gear are worn enough to slop together and bind. Hope your solution is easy. By now you've found you need to hold the starter together as it comes out. They're tough to put back together in the driveway
Spin a couple of nuts on the bolt threads to help keep it together until you reinstall it.
Tim
The starter bendix assembly can be replaced as a unit if your's in worn out. Sacramento Vintage Ford is great to do business with and prices have always been reasonable.
A couple of things to check - you should have had an 'L' shaped bracket on one of the starter mounting bolts that connected to an oil pan bolt. If that is missing - and many are - the starter moves around too much and binds on the flywheel. Otherwise it could just be that the teeth on the bendix or ring gear are worn enough to slop together and bind. Hope your solution is easy. By now you've found you need to hold the starter together as it comes out. They're tough to put back together in the driveway
Spin a couple of nuts on the bolt threads to help keep it together until you reinstall it.Tim
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Artic - thanks for the advice on the starter, I was leaning that way, I want something reliable...well as reliable as a 66 year old truck can be!
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Tim - I learned the hard way last night about holding that starter together! Thanks for the info on Sacramento Vintage; I am looking for good places right now. When I got the starter out the ring gear looked awful, so that prompted the rebuild/replacement. However, it DOES NOT have the bracket that you are talking about...I have a feeling that would've saved years of trouble!! I'll have to find a picture of one and make myself one!<O></O>
Thanks again, you guys are already proving to be a GREAT resource!!<O></O>
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Tim - I learned the hard way last night about holding that starter together! Thanks for the info on Sacramento Vintage; I am looking for good places right now. When I got the starter out the ring gear looked awful, so that prompted the rebuild/replacement. However, it DOES NOT have the bracket that you are talking about...I have a feeling that would've saved years of trouble!! I'll have to find a picture of one and make myself one!<O
></O>Thanks again, you guys are already proving to be a GREAT resource!!<O
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Originally Posted by errica
Artic - thanks for the advice on the starter, I was leaning that way, I want something reliable...well as reliable as a 66 year old truck can be!
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Tim - I learned the hard way last night about holding that starter together! Thanks for the info on Sacramento Vintage; I am looking for good places right now. When I got the starter out the ring gear looked awful, so that prompted the rebuild/replacement. However, it DOES NOT have the bracket that you are talking about...I have a feeling that would've saved years of trouble!! I'll have to find a picture of one and make myself one!<O></O>
Thanks again, you guys are already proving to be a GREAT resource!!<O></O>
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Tim - I learned the hard way last night about holding that starter together! Thanks for the info on Sacramento Vintage; I am looking for good places right now. When I got the starter out the ring gear looked awful, so that prompted the rebuild/replacement. However, it DOES NOT have the bracket that you are talking about...I have a feeling that would've saved years of trouble!! I'll have to find a picture of one and make myself one!<O
></O>Thanks again, you guys are already proving to be a GREAT resource!!<O
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The front part of the teeth on the ring gear should be shinny. But not torn up. I would say that the Bendix spring is weak. If there is plenty of tooth left on the ring gear I would go with the newer type starter. If it wasn't suck a pain to R &R the old starter I would glean it up and lube the Starter Drive (Bendix) and try it again. Did the engine start? And if it did than did the starter kick loose?
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Nah, it wouldn't start, but there are a lot of contributing factors...it's sat for 8 years, never started perfectly before, battery is probably dead...
But last night I hooked it up to a battery charger/starter, pumped out most of the old gas and added clean gas, primed the carb and gave it a go. It made a noise that was somewhere between being hung up and not engaging at all, if that makes any sense!
That is when I decided to pull the starter and see if I could release some tension if it was hung up. Nothing I saw looked good, so I have it out for now. I will try to get some pictures of it tonight and post them, to see what you think!
But last night I hooked it up to a battery charger/starter, pumped out most of the old gas and added clean gas, primed the carb and gave it a go. It made a noise that was somewhere between being hung up and not engaging at all, if that makes any sense!
That is when I decided to pull the starter and see if I could release some tension if it was hung up. Nothing I saw looked good, so I have it out for now. I will try to get some pictures of it tonight and post them, to see what you think!
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How old is the battery. If it's been setting dead for 8 years than it's shot. And jump starting may not be enough amps. If ya want to upgrade to 12 volt neg ground with a new starter than now is the time to do it. If not than get a NEW 6 volt battery, clean and lube the starter and fire the old girl up. Most likely there is rust in the cylinders from setting. Pull all plugs and put any atf in the plug holes. Than put a socket wrench on the crank pulley bolt and turn it over that way till she frees up. Than the cleaned starter and fresh battery should turn it over fine with the plugs out to Pump some oil around. When she is finely spinning good than put in fresh plugs and prime the carb if ya got spark and she will go ROAR.
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artic - the battery is not that old, but it's sat for a few years. I will replace it now, looks like I might as well replace a bunch of stuff! Here's a picture from the inside of me poor starter...what do you think?
