Ok Guys....heres the short story, we have an old farm truck 64 ton with dump bed and all with a 292 engine.
ive got a few questions becauser this is much older than anything ive worked one much especily engine wise.

Ok this beast has a 292 v8 in it....the motor is not in that great of shape its oil presure isent all that great but it will have to do for now, it has had the obligatory carb reduild & water Pump
the main worry i have is a tick in the right side head, the main question i have is...how the crap do the valves & rockers get oiled in in this thing.????

next the brakes can you guys say MANUAL. manual brakes on a 1 ton truck with 5000 pound of feed isent what i call fun, ive been through the brakes and have got them in good working order (for manual brakes)the main question is can i put power brakes or somthing on this think.??? and how hard will it be to do.???

3rd Question, will a late 60 or early 70s 302 bolt up to the old manual transmission..???..and if not what will that isent quite so old that i can work on

I may have a few more question befor this gets done plz be patiant

 

Yeah, you can convert the brakes to power. Some 60's mustangs and 67-68 F100s used drum brakes and dual line power brakes. it would take a little work to convert the setup you have, but there are a number of posts around that will walk you through it.

You didn't say what model truck you have. that would matter on the transmission, but no, a 302 won't bolt up, however you probably can find a bell housing that will make it work.

I wouldn't recomend a 302, though. Its a light motor that makes good ponys, but isn't a good torque puller like you'll need for a 1 ton. 352/360/390 FE blocks are almost as plentifull, and they will pull like a team of mules on steroids. FE blocks also last a long time.

 

thanks for the info Beater and a little more info in return

the truck is a 64 ford f350 at least thats what the parts places say it has a 292 with a 4 speed tranny behind it..i dont know what style tranny other than 4speed....

thanks for the info on power brakes i'll look around a bit and find more info thank you.....


im still lookinf for information on the Oiling in the upper part of the heads...we have 2 lines runing into the valve covers that has oil running through them but when you remove the valve cover there dosent aperar to be an oil hole anywhere for it to exit..? are they cloged ? where are they.? anyone.?

 

Somewhere along in its' life, the oil passages in the head probably clogged and outside oilers were put on. The stud that the oil line goes to should be hollow with an opening into the rocker arm shaft. A removal of the rocker arm assembly and complete cleaning might be in order, including removing the plugs at the ends of the shaft, keep the rockers in order. A piece of 1/16 " welding rod works pretty good for cleaning the rocker arm holes, and a gun cleaning brush works ok for cleaning out the shaft. Good luck.

 

GLR...that does help alot...i am in your dept

 

If you get a 302 from a 74-75 F-100, the 4 speed will bolt to the 302 truck bellhousing. I had a 74 with a 302 and a 3 speed on the column. I put a earlier T 85 in the truck and it bolted right up. You will have to fabricate mounts as the 292 has the front bracket and not side mounts. You will have a slight tick on a good motor, as these have solid lifters. They did have the oiling problems as they got older. Do what was said above and clean out the passageways.

Barry

 

old yblock 292 had two problems, sometimes the cam bearings turned and blocked off the oil passage to the heads, and sometimes it was just crud build up in the head passage, due to not changing the oil regularly and they didn't have good detergents back then...so the simple cheap fix was to install the overhead oiler lines like you have, I hate those things...MICKEY MOUSE to the max... most people added them after is was to late, if your lucky and the rockers and shaft didn't wear to bad you might be alright, adjust the valves to .019 Hot see if the tick goes away

 

Thanks you guys one the info on the Oiling system....1 question..im figuring mine is clogged up with crud in the head passages....are there any way to clean the head passages out Without major sugery.????

 

I've often thought about that over the years...my fear was what ever I put in the oil passage from the top of the head to loosen up the sludge would drain back down into the cam bearing along with the sludge!!!! maybe some on the ybock forum has a magic fix, try posting it there

 

If my memory serves correctly, a hundred years ago, there was a tool used (after rocker assembly removal) that would fit into the oil hole and you would try to force grease down the passage to clear it out. But, that sludge is going somewhere. That was one reason the overhead oilers became popular,some also felt that with the oilers, oil would be robbed from the main bearings. Aside for a complete disassembly, cleaning and checing cam bearings, there is no easy fix. For now maybe just clean the rockers and see what happens.

 

ok....i went out today and removed the valve covers and the overhead rocker oil system (Micky Mouse oil system..i love that name for it ).....Ok....we take another twist....the side that chatters and dosent sound like it oils right still had a solid bolt stud on that side where the oiler system is...So evidently the over head oiler is only runing on the passanger side of the block...i checked the passanger side and it has the hollow bolt i removed the valve cover and it was well oiled inside..So the driver side that wasent oiling is still using the original head passage through the cam bearing oil system i checked the rocker system for clogs and air would pass freely throgh the rockers cleaning them tomarrow just to make sure....Sooo my deductive reasoning sayes the head passage is clogged or cam bearing spun.....now if you read the erlier post i had been commanded not to put much money into this motor so pulling it out and major sugery isent an option because i would like to replace it at a later date. Does anyone know where i might get one these fancy Hollow Bolts at,...??? that will be the quickes and esiest way to fix this problom for right now.

Also im plan on posting most this thread on YBlock forum also maybe they can help me some also..

again thank you for your Help and time

 

You can have a machine shop make a bolt, are someone with access to a lathr. It also has to be cross drilled so oil can get into the rocker shaft.

 

With the rocker assembly off you could remove all the spark plugs and spin the motor with the starter, while having someone look and see if oil is exiting the center of the head. If it is, then try putting on the rocker assembly, set the valve lash, and after starting it up look to see if oil is exiting the overflow tube.
The low oil pressure may be below the threshold for oiling the rocker assembly, and no matter what you do if that is the case, the motor will have to be replaced or rebuilt.

 

46Y thanks for the suggestions
I'll try removing the plugs also tomarrow & spining it and see if i get oil.

Correct me if im wrong with this....t he overhead oiler is pumping oil to left side of engine, wouldent that mean it has enough oil presure to oil the rocker on the right side if it wasent clogged..???... it has roughly 45 to 50 Pounds of oil presure when cold...is this enough to oil the rockers..???

Aint this Fun Guys...Fairly soon im sure i'll have everyone confused

 

That should be enough pressure to get oil up there. The question is have you determined for sure it is clogged?
When you get this all sorted out, try using some 20W50 motor oil. It will help a lot to keep oil pressure up when motor is hot and running low rpms.