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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Early 99 Smaller Intake -Worth changing?

So today I got in a buddies 2000 F250 supercab short bed automatic. It started, shifted and just plain sounded stronger than my early 99 F350. I've got 60 hp chip. He's bone stock. We were empty driving around town so I didn't experience the overall perfomance of his truck.

Does anyone know if the intake increase from 2 to 3 inches, the turbo wheel and the catalytic converter removal were the only changes from early 99 to 2000? I read one post that said the turbo was smaller to. Anyone know if thats true?

Banks claims that the smaller intake starves one side of the cylinders and offers a modified port adaptor to fix it, but I'm not really looking to spend that kind of money and am not convinced it will completly make up the difference. Wondering if the performance increase would be worth changing out the intake to the 3 inch?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Depends on your goals. Going for an all out HP monster then yeah updating to a 99.5 turbo and intake setup will be worth it. If you want an aftermarket turbo you have to update to the 99.5 stuff. If you just want a nice increase in power then the smaller early 99 stuff won't really cause you a problem. Oh yeah, your buddy's got a better HPOP and bigger injectors too.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Not really looking to build a monster. Just believe that more power means less work for the engine. And trying to find out more about the early 99. Seems the more I find out about the early 99, the more I wish I'd waited a year before buying it. If I hadn't babied this one so much I'd just get an 03 and be done with it. Prefer the 7.3 to the 6.0 So don't really want a 05. Not to mention the $$,$$$
 
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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I love my early 99. My mods are listed in my sig, other then the wheels,tires and lift, I have about $600 in engine mods and gauges. My truck made 237 rwhp/588 lb-ft with just my minor mods, and no chip or tuner. I think early 99s can definatly make some decent power.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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With the small turbo and injectors I made 380 RWHP on my early 99 they have a lot of potential if you don't go to big. I would upgrade that chip to at least a 110 hp if you have gauges , exhaust and intake upgrades.

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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Smile power without chip

Originally Posted by psdpower
I love my early 99. My mods are listed in my sig, other then the wheels,tires and lift, I have about $600 in engine mods and gauges. My truck made 237 rwhp/588 lb-ft with just my minor mods, and no chip or tuner. I think early 99s can definatly make some decent power.
how do i get to your sig to find out what u did. thank you early99psd.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Hold your pointer over the word "Signature".
 
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Clemzeter
Not really looking to build a monster. Just believe that more power means less work for the engine. And trying to find out more about the early 99. Seems the more I find out about the early 99, the more I wish I'd waited a year before buying it. If I hadn't babied this one so much I'd just get an 03 and be done with it. Prefer the 7.3 to the 6.0 So don't really want a 05. Not to mention the $$,$$$
I see you have a super chips 60 hp Thats the frist thing I would get rid of get a good 3 or 4 programe chip os it can be nice and mild most of the time and let rip when you want to
 
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 02:38 AM
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Seems like everyone agrees that with sufficient modifications the truck will make good power without replacing the intake and more than enough if a little propane is added. I think I would be satisfied with the power it can make if I can do it within a reasonable budget.
Before I change my chip, I'll need to get some gauges, intake and exhaust. I've priced gauges locally and am looking at about 360.00 for pyro, boost and trans. I've seen some exhaust kits for as little as 260.00 on line but they are only 3 inch. I think my early 99 is already running a 3 inch down pipe with a 3.5-inch muffler. Is that sufficient to leave and just replace the catalytic converter and muffler, or would a 4 inch be the proper solution? I'll probably look closely at Kwik's intake system and do it or one similar. Seems most other significant intake systems are entirely too expensive. Banks seems to think the backpressure valve is weak and will open prematurely. Has anyone had a problem with this after modifying their rigs? I've read the EBPV can be disconnected but I live in a cold climate and don't think that will be wise for me.

Hey WeWeld, Nice truck, I especially like that hood and those running boards for the bed. Also looks like some nice storage in the back. Did you have to put that bed on after you bought the truck or can you get a 450 with a bed? What did you come up with for your custom intake? Why the H2 Turbo, propane, boost???

Also, while I have all you early 99 guys attention. How much transmission fluid do you put in your automatics? My owners manual calls for 17 quarts, but I can't get more than 14.5 on a complete drain i.e. pan, filter, tq, and blowing out the cooler and lines. I’m starting to wonder if my trans. is missing something or is smaller than it was supposed to be.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Clemzeter
Before I change my chip, I'll need to get some gauges, intake and exhaust. I've priced gauges locally and am looking at about 360.00 for pyro, boost and trans.
Check out these, priced out like 6 gauges for the price of what you were quoted. http://www.egauges.com/

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I've seen some exhaust kits for as little as 260.00 on line but they are only 3 inch.
Build your own, if you have access to a wire feed welder you can do it yourself.

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I'll probably look closely at Kwik's intake system and do it or one similar. Seems most other significant intake systems are entirely too expensive. Banks seems to think the backpressure valve is weak and will open prematurely. Has anyone had a problem with this after modifying their rigs? I've read the EBPV can be disconnected but I live in a cold climate and don't think that will be wise for me.
It is NICE, the turbo whine is very noticeable, and it definely likes the extra air I have noticed, as for the EBPV I live straight east of you prolly an hour or so and I disconnected mine cuz I hated the sickly restriction sound it made when cold. I have noticed no difference in warm up time, only a better sounding, more responsive motor when it cold. no wastgate so can't help you there, but I can tell you just disconnect the red tube goin to it and stick it on one of the studs on the exhaust clamps

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Also, while I have all you early 99 guys attention. How much transmission fluid do you put in your automatics? My owners manual calls for 17 quarts, but I can't get more than 14.5 on a complete drain i.e. pan, filter, tq, and blowing out the cooler and lines. I’m starting to wonder if my trans. is missing something or is smaller than it was supposed to be.
Mine is a 97 but I will talk anyway. when I did mine it took 16 quarts, but due to differences in casting what the manual says will prolly never be right, thats just their recommendation so you have an idea, as long as the stick says you have enough I wouldn't worry, as long as it is hot and running when you check it.


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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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Does anyone know if the intake increase from 2 to 3 inches, the turbo wheel and the catalytic converter removal were the only changes from early 99 to 2000? I read one post that said the turbo was smaller to. Anyone know if thats true?
By intake are we talking from the compressor side of the turbo to the engine?
 

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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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By intake are we talking from the compressor side of the turbo to the engine?
Yes, I"m talking the actual intake ports on the intake manifold. There are two of them under the turbo.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Clemzeter

Hey WeWeld, Nice truck, I especially like that hood and those running boards for the bed. Also looks like some nice storage in the back. Did you have to put that bed on after you bought the truck or can you get a 450 with a bed? What did you come up with for your custom intake? Why the H2 Turbo, propane, boost???
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Thanks the hood is a steel one from Reflections the boards are from Dee Zee and the boxes are from Highway Products. They do not come with a bed from Ford but I shortened the frame 3.5" to put the bed on without having to use the bed spacer. I made the intake system to work with the H2 and my 3 stage propane system. I put the H2 on because I am going to put a lot more power to it and I got a good deal on it from a SoCaps member. It is only making 38 lbs of boost right now, needs more fuel.

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