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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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tractor pulling?

anyone pull their trucks? I pull my older one, it's light enough I can get in a class with s-10's and rangers on 1/4 tank of gas
 
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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I thought about it, but decieded agianst it since I had to be with all the V-8's w/ my six, but it would be great if it would show em up. My friend won first place this year w/ his 76 Ford 4x4 F-250 w/ a 390 w/ open headers and a 650 edelbrock carb. w/ half wore out 31's to prevent wheel hop. He pulled out the gate in the 5500 lb. class, only one who did, he stuck the 35's back on for the mud drag the next week and got 14th outta about 80 trucks.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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I was thinking about pulling my f-250 when I get it back together. I don't think I am until I get the SAS in the front.

A guy I used to work with had a 78 with a 400 he used to pull.. he did pretty good.. He swapped in 4.56 gears though.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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I often wondered what my 66 F100 4x4 could pull. Its a 352-2v with a NP435 and
Dana 20(?) transfer case. How do I find out what "class" I would be in, etc?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 09:21 PM
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I wish I could pull trucks, but the thing is they either full pull or they have to be towed off the track. Thats why I moved on to the tractors. I know one thing, those guys that pull them pickups got some serious money wraped up in em.

Around my way the classes are by wieght and 4x2 or 4x4.


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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 02:13 AM
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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The next time that they have them arround here I'm going to give it a shot with my F-250. Arround here they just put all the 4x4 street trucks in one class, so I think I could do pretty well. I think I could probably make a full pull with the healthy 460 fuelie, long wheelbase, heavy weight, aggressive tires, and low gearing that I have, but I don't really know what tecnique to use. From watching, it seems like the sled is pretty heavy to get it started. I would like to be able to start out in 2nd gear, low range, so I could get the momentum up, but I'm affraid I might burn the clutch off the line. First gear low is so slow though that I'd have to be turning 6K to get any momentum up. For those of you who have pulled your trucks, what do you usually do?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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Depends on the sled, the new styles drop the pan at about 200 ft. and the pan has little iron plows welded on the bottom which dig in and will just hold your truck in place and make it bounce, these sleds are easy to get off the line though. They were created for highly modified trucks and tractors which get going 35 mph. as for stock trucks and tractors it takes the fun out of it cuz everyone stops within a few inches of each other.
Now if they use the old style sled that the pan is on the ground the whole time and the box does most of the pulling down then it's hard to get off the line but makes things more competitive and doesn't rely on speed so much to pull further, but w/ a 460 I'd diffinently start in 2nd and keep er wrapped up with the new style sled and with the old sled I'd probably do the same. With my 6 and the new sled I'd use 2nd too to make a run for it and lug er till she died, with the old sled I might use 1st, cuz it starts pulling hard.
Around here everything is based on weight for our pulls, as for me I do a lot of tractor pulling, but in the antique class, with an old farmall H and M, so those use the old style sled. The bigger tractors like in the 9500 lb. class use the new style sleds and you just gotta get going as fast as you can till the 75ft. mark shiftin up (that's the rule) then at about 175/200ft. you gotta be quick shiftin down, an advantage pickups don't have.
Worst problem with pickup pullin is gettin rid of wheel hop, you don't wanna run to big or aggressive of tires, they are the worst, the track is just like cement, some guys try to rachet strap there springs as tight as possiable to prevent jumpin, cuz I've seen a lotta drive shafts hit the ground this way, it just eats up U-joints. If you have any other questions I've had a fair amount of experience with this sport, just never actually pulled my truck, but I've helped tons of people and pulled other trucks and the old style with mine.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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Aight, thanks for the info. Arround here they mostly use the old wieght pan type sleds, and its really a pretty good show. Most of the time at least 1 truck makes a full pull, with most of them stoping about half way. I saw a couple trucks that smoked the clutch off the line, and then since it had already gotten hot they burnt it up again about mid way. The one down fall that my truck has is that I'm running 3.55 gears, thats why I thought maybe it would be better to start in 1st. One other thing, I see a lot of guys go out there with a 4" drop hitch turnned upside down (to make the pulling point higher) which seems to put a lot of weight on the back end. It seems to me that when it really gets pulling hard it would cause you to lose traction on the front end, but maybe thats not the case?
 
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Old Mar 10, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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Round my way a couple years back there was a guy that pulled a chevy 4x2 with a 350ci that just kicked everybodys butt. No one could ever figure how that little 350 could pull it off.

The local pulls around here a pretty big, theres always guys that pull amatuer with their pickups. I love it, always seems to be a F250 PSD that pulls it off!

Redneck-Cowboy you pull antigue class. Thats what I pull. Got myself a top-notch 1951' JD A heavily modified. You should truck your farmall M over into Iowa sometime and see what its all about.

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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Man, you guys always sneek those A's into the 4500lb. class and beat my little H. My H is still pretty stock other then that the governer is hoped up so it's kicks out a couple hundred more rpms and I swaped in a alternator. I still beat my friend whose H is all modified internally by 15 ft. when I pulled agianst him. My M is painted John Deere green and has 4640 stickers on it, it has a super M crank and flat topped pistons and will smoke like a diesel when it's lugging and still gets used on the farm everyday, this tractor needs a lot of electrical help though (spring project). I hit the 5500lb class w/ the M, but you always have to beware of the John Deere G, but I've beaten a few. I run straight pipes on both tractors, I don't have wheely bars or anything, but some places let you get by. In our antique classes you don't need wheely bars but you have to use all stock weights (can't hang suitcases on anywhere) there is another class that I pull in, that you need wheely bars but you can put weights anywhere and you can have your tractor modified to a certain extent. I need a gooseneck trailer though so I can get out to more pulls. I really like pulling in Waverly at Camp Creek, it's free, plus it's an antique tractor show so the compitition is pretty fair.

As for that drop hitch flip, what you lose on the front for traction is made up on the back and helps to pull down a lot on the back to keep it from hopin. If it's pulling completly level they really like to hop. Usually there is a hitch height limit, but since there are lifted trucks in the same class it's usually pretty high (30 inchs I think) In truck pulls you have to beware of lockers, I see a lot of drive shafts twist off, sometimes it's better to get em spinning. What tranny do you have? I have the T-18 and 1st 4low is really really slow, so I bet I could still pull off 2nd w/ 3.08's and 31's. I would guess you have a 5spd ZF also with the granny low. But with a sled like that I might also try 1st too. If you have bigger agressive tires, use 1st, if they are stock and our half wore out or just some half @$$ A/T's then you might wanna try 2nd and drop the clutch off the line and get em spinning and keep the 460 floored, then those tires will squeal and smoke like your on cement if the track is dry and packed hard.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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My local napa parts guy has got tons of money in his two 79 pullin FORDs......one of em even has a ford hemi and all....thats one sweet truck....haha He refuses to sell me that engine (might be because he sees how often I'm in there gettin parts for my 351 M haha)
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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At school here we had a good old fashion hook bumpers type pull. it was alot oif fun. we had classes done by 350/one ton 250/3/4ton etc and 4x4 and 2x4 in each class also. alot of my freinds have the new power stroke diesels or dodges. but the older trucks like mine kicked ***. Seemed like it didnt come down to what enegeine but what traction ya could get. My old ford was able to pull one kids power stroke and he even had a round bale in the back for extra weight. another kids stright six out pulled a power stroke also. he had lockers front and rear and just left her in first gear in 4x4 low range. defintly some fun times cant wait till spring so we can do it again. little hard to do it in 3ft of snow.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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On yeah, that's always fun. Until a chain breaks and dents your tailgate (lucky it was the other guy), I pulled agianst a 3/4 ton cummins dodge w/ my 1/2 ton on a gravel road, well we were both spinning our tires off in 4 low first, then I let off a little to catch some traction and got back on it and the chain snapped, well that was the end off that for a while.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Yeah Redneck... Unfortunatly I can't get into the 4500lb class due to my block. I put a 60 power block in her, not without cutting up my sideframes and putting the 60 carb on. Mine used to smoke like the devil before i turned it down...for some reason the carb was turned way up. It would never idle because it would flood itself out. Still use it on the farm, I pull the 6-bale hay trailer with it. Shes got plenty of power. I'm wanting to put an alt on it. I didn't pull any antique pulls last year... theres only one or two and there pretty far away. I just pull at the reg farm pulls. Theres one in every town around here. I dominate the 5000lb and 5500lb, 6000lb is a little hard and 6500lb is crap. You can't compete with those ih's. Blow right by me.

Now a Farmall M with 4640 stickers on it. I want to see this green machine. I've always wanted to paint one of ours a exoctic color, but I could never get the ok.

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