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Old Jul 24, 2024 | 09:41 PM
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Fire Hazard is VERY Real Stock Fuel Filter

Yes, that is fuel. F this lame upper fuel filter configuration. And before you say it... this is 9,000 miles since fuel filter change (I would change at next oil change). The line decided not to be connected any longer. What a pathetic cheap piece of trash connector. This is the rear most line on the stock filter which I've since looked into and I think is the low pressure intake. Odd since my pump pressures did not deviate or I would not have limped it into this parking lot. Somehow it maintained 14k of pressure in limp mode (same requested and delivered) even though it was only being fed the left over splash fuel. I knew I was leaking fuel but was shocked when I saw how much. It was a water-fall of diesel. Obviously shopping for aftermarket filter solution now. Threw code P0087 which is a rail pressure error. I'm a little surprised it threw that code when pump pressure requested and delivered were unaffected.

Thoughts on SPE fuel filter system? Both filters relocated to side of fuel tank.


Fuel line blows off due to cheap plastic connector.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 07:15 AM
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Bummer man sorry to hear that. Odd seems to be a lot of fuel filter related items kicking around now. Anyways, SPE and FASS have systems that drop in place of the factory water separator. The machine work on the SPE kit is nice, only issue I have is I don't think they left enough room for the WIF, Fass pigtailing to a deutsche (I believe) connector is the best set up I have seen. I have a HSM lower delete kit and a Baldwin FB1311 waiting to go into mine once I get back from my vacation.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkF450
Yes, that is fuel. F this lame upper fuel filter configuration. And before you say it... this is 9,000 miles since fuel filter change (I would change at next oil change). The line decided not to be connected any longer. What a pathetic cheap piece of trash connector. This is the rear most line on the stock filter which I've since looked into and I think is the low pressure intake. Odd since my pump pressures did not deviate or I would not have limped it into this parking lot. Somehow it maintained 14k of pressure in limp mode (same requested and delivered) even though it was only being fed the left over splash fuel. I knew I was leaking fuel but was shocked when I saw how much. It was a water-fall of diesel. Obviously shopping for aftermarket filter solution now. Threw code P0087 which is a rail pressure error. I'm a little surprised it threw that code when pump pressure requested and delivered were unaffected.

Thoughts on SPE fuel filter system? Both filters relocated to side of fuel tank.


Fuel line blows off due to cheap plastic connector.
I bought the Fleece kit for
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 08:49 AM
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Check the micron rating before switching to aftermarket.

some use absolute ratings, some use nominal ratings….theres a difference and it’s not good.

 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Check the micron rating before switching to aftermarket.

some use absolute ratings, some use nominal ratings….theres a difference and it’s not good.
Might want to throw flow ratings in there too, several kits use filters for engines that are half the size of the 6.7. IE. the black market upper filter that they market as a "2 micron" filter is actually 15 microns (OEM is 5.1 at 98.9%, yep its weird) and tops out on a Cat 2.2L engine. Wix is usually pretty good about publishing flow ratings.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 09:52 AM
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Look at whatever you decide on very closely since most of them use the stock fitting that blew apart on you. Granted if you use new parts on the OEM fitting it will more than likely last the life of the truck since it will never be removed again, but it is still the part that failed you.








I don't see that the FASS system replaces the underhood filter, at least not in their filter kit like SPE has. Either case, it would still use the factory fitting.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 10:30 AM
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Since the new ford engine bay filter now has a bypass, another option is just to add a filter in between the stock 4 micron engine bay filter and the 10 micron under chassis filter.

an in between filter with a micron rating between 4 and 10 microns will catch stuff that gets past the 10 micron under chassis filter before it gets to the 4 micron engine bay filter. This will help prevent clogging of the engine bay filter and prevent the engine bay filter from either bursting or going into bY pass.


the spooky thing about the new ford engine bay filter is that if it fills up with diesel algae or other matter and goes into by pass, you won’t know it and if you follow the ford service schedule could be sending gunk to your injectors for 10’s of thousands of miles.

heres my in between filter

it started life as a copy cat engine bay filter that sat where the oem engine bay filter sits.

but when I found out that the 4 micron rating of this copy cat filter was a nominal rating and not an absolute one, I moved it to an in between position and left the oem engine bay filter in place.

my understanding is that absolute ratings catch 99% on the first pass and nominal only catch 85% on the first pass.

there are no absolute 4 micron rated filters that can replace the engine bay filter that uses the thread mounts of this copy cat manifold.





 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
I don't see that the FASS system replaces the underhood filter, at least not in their filter kit like SPE has. Either case, it would still use the factory fitting.
Fass has a seperate upper filter delete... honestly not my favorite option..

https://fassride.com/shop/product/sh...er-delete-kit/

HSM makes a nice one too...

https://hs-motorsports.com/collectio...ter-bypass-kit

But still retains the OEM quick connects.

Originally Posted by speakerfritz

there are no absolute 4 micron rated filters that can replace the engine bay filter that uses the thread mounts of this copy cat manifold.
Is that a 3/4-16 threaded filter post?

If so a Baldwin BF46228 is a 4 micron absolute option:

https://ph.baldwinfilters.com/baldwi...ilters/bf46228

Caveat emptor, the OEM application of that filter is a 3.8L 95hp skid steer. I think some folks who got the old HSM upper filter delete ran this filter.
 
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I think the jist I got from the OP is wanting to replace the OEM fittings altogether, but I have not seen that as an option. The fittings do work well, the real issue is the locking clip gets brittle over time and must be replaced often, or they fail. If it is a one and done though, like the various options shown, the chances of the locking clip breaking go WAY down since it is no longer being flexed to do service with.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rufushusky


Is that a 3/4-16 threaded filter post?

If so a Baldwin BF46228 is a 4 micron absolute option:

https://ph.baldwinfilters.com/baldwi...ilters/bf46228

Caveat emptor, the OEM application of that filter is a 3.8L 95hp skid steer. I think some folks who got the old HSM upper filter delete ran this filter.

Yes

i just ordered the 46228 so that I’ll have it for my next in bay filter change which will probally be the few ford funky one with the by pass.

so this way if it goes into by pass I’ll still have 4 micron protection.

thanks

 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
I think the jist I got from the OP is wanting to replace the OEM fittings altogether, but I have not seen that as an option. The fittings do work well, the real issue is the locking clip gets brittle over time and must be replaced often, or they fail. If it is a one and done though, like the various options shown, the chances of the locking clip breaking go WAY down since it is no longer being flexed to do service with.
I think the fass option would be his best bet if looking to reduce the number of QC fittings.

Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Yes

i just ordered the 46228 so that I’ll have it for my next in bay filter change which will probally be the few ford funky one with the by pass.

so this way if it goes into by pass I’ll still have 4 micron protection.

thanks
My 2022 upper filter I just removed had the bypass on it.

Sure thing, just trying to help the cause.

Baldwin has a nice search by criteria page here:

https://ph.baldwinfilters.com/baldwi...n-fuel-filters

In addition to other filters...

https://ph.baldwinfilters.com/baldwi...ldwin-products
 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 04:00 PM
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Thanks for the feedback really liking the ideas and points to consider.

Did some research and yes I was hoping to get away from those plastic/brittle clips/connectors but doesn't seem realistically possible so here's my decision points thus far:
1) keep the 'stock' fittings but replace with new and put in a filter kit that won't require they are manipulated for every filter change
2) mostly decided against the SPE full replacement since I live in cold country which is why I think that filter is in the engine bay to begin with and also why relocating is probably not a great idea
3) presently leaning towards an HSM upper replacement but only if the micron and flow is factory or better
 
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Old Jul 25, 2024 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rufushusky
Fass has a seperate upper filter delete... honestly not my favorite option..

https://fassride.com/shop/product/sh...er-delete-kit/

HSM makes a nice one too...

https://hs-motorsports.com/collectio...ter-bypass-kit

But still retains the OEM quick connects.



Is that a 3/4-16 threaded filter post?

If so a Baldwin BF46228 is a 4 micron absolute option:

https://ph.baldwinfilters.com/baldwi...ilters/bf46228

Caveat emptor, the OEM application of that filter is a 3.8L 95hp skid steer. I think some folks who got the old HSM upper filter delete ran this filter.
I ran that baldwin for a few weeks before I made an adapter for the BMP filter head to us a CAT 416-1225, the adapters can be bought on ebay too.
 
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Originally Posted by MarkF450
Yes, that is fuel. F this lame upper fuel filter configuration. And before you say it... this is 9,000 miles since fuel filter change (I would change at next oil change). The line decided not to be connected any longer. What a pathetic cheap piece of trash connector. This is the rear most line on the stock filter which I've since looked into and I think is the low pressure intake. Odd since my pump pressures did not deviate or I would not have limped it into this parking lot. Somehow it maintained 14k of pressure in limp mode (same requested and delivered) even though it was only being fed the left over splash fuel. I knew I was leaking fuel but was shocked when I saw how much. It was a water-fall of diesel. Obviously shopping for aftermarket filter solution now. Threw code P0087 which is a rail pressure error. I'm a little surprised it threw that code when pump pressure requested and delivered were unaffected.

Thoughts on SPE fuel filter system? Both filters relocated to side of fuel tank.


Fuel line blows off due to cheap plastic connector.
That sucks to hear Mark... I'm happy to see it didn't go sideways on you... good luck with your plan moving forward...

Too bad SPE didn't make a full set of these for our trucks...

https://www.spemotorsport.com/collec...39835323891823
 
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 08:52 AM
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Right now HSM relocation kit is top contender for upgrade - it relocates but at-least against the hot transmission and it's a larger filter that filters to 4 absolute (Baldwin BF7883).
 
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