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Old Jun 3, 2024 | 03:55 PM
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1999 f350 7.3 starting issue

Hi all, I have a 1999 7.3l super duty. Been a wonderful truck up until the other day.
I was driving home and the engine wouldn’t respond to the gas pedal. It would do it intermittently. The next morning as soon as I started it it would die.
I had just checked all fluids a few days before all were good, i was thinking maybe it wasn’t getting fuel so I relieved the fuel bowl pressure and removed the filter. The fuel was black. I immediately check my oil level and it was 4 quarts low. At this point a decide to pull the injectors and replace my O-rings put fresh oil in it with new O-rings on all injectors but now the issue is it just won’t start it just cranks. I didn’t notice on the first injector there. It was what appeared to be a small plastic gasket or what I’m not sure all the way down by the copper gasket. Somebody told me that that part is needed in order for it to fire but I never heard anything about this and the one that I had was cracked and broke anyway so I don’t know if anybody can help me, please let me know
 
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Old Jun 3, 2024 | 04:03 PM
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What does "cracks" mean exactly? Do you see oil pressure build on the gauge in the cluster? Did you fill the hpop reservoir with oil before attempting to start the truck? Make sure the reservoir is full then remove the ICP sensor. Do you see a steady trickle of oil coming from the hole? If no wait until you do. That should bleed any trapped air from the pump escape.


Edit: Cranks, just came to me. My bad.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2024 | 04:08 PM
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I didn’t notice on the first injector there. It was what appeared to be a small plastic gasket or what I’m not sure all the way down by the copper gasket. Somebody told me that that part is needed in order for it to fire but I never heard anything about this and the one that I had was cracked and broke anyway so I don’t know if anybody can help me, please let me know
There shouldn't be anything in the bottom of the injector cup. The copper washer should be on the injector and it seats against the cup, nothing else. Got a pic by chance?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2024 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by udsuth78
There shouldn't be anything in the bottom of the injector cup. The copper washer should be on the injector and it seats against the cup, nothing else. Got a pic by chance?

You can see small plastic right where the copper washer is.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2024 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by udsuth78
What does "cracks" mean exactly? Do you see oil pressure build on the gauge in the cluster? Did you fill the hpop reservoir with oil before attempting to start the truck? Make sure the reservoir is full then remove the ICP sensor. Do you see a steady trickle of oil coming from the hole? If no wait until you do. That should bleed any trapped air from the pump escape.


Edit: Cranks, just came to me. My bad.
I actually did what actually happened was the fact that ever died I pulled the fuel water separator filter and the diesel that came out was black which means it was oil in it. I checked my oil level and it was low almost 4 quarts which means it wouldn't start so it put oil back into it it started again but knowing that oil was leaking into the fuel meant that I still have to replace my o-rings which I did put everything back together but now it won't start again and the oil level is okay now I am going to check the ICP I'll let you know
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If you look at the very end of the injector you'll see a little plastic piece and another little plastic piece sitting on the towel that was only on one injector not on any other ones
 
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Old Jun 3, 2024 | 06:22 PM
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Yeah, whatever that is it isn't supposed to be there. Whoever told you otherwise, you might let them know so they don't spread anymore bad info around. If all the injector bores are clean now and injectors torqued properly you should be fine. It does take a bit of cranking to get the hpo system filled up and build enough pressure to start the engine. Make sure the reservoir is full and crank the engine until you see the dash gauge build pressure. Usually takes 2-3 rounds of 10 or so seconds of cranking to fire the engine after injector work.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2024 | 11:12 PM
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That little plastic gasket on the injector tip is blowing my mind. It would definitely explain oil in the fuel. If it ran at all. Maybe it got picked up after you pulled the injectors? Rolling around in a box?

How long have you had the truck?
 
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 05:27 PM
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I’m gonna guess it was a injector tip cover. Possibly someone changed an injector and forgot to remove it?
 
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Originally Posted by RacinJasonWV
I’m gonna guess it was a injector tip cover. Possibly someone changed an injector and forgot to remove it?
My thoughts exactly it's the only thing that would make any sense.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2024 | 10:56 PM
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IT STARTED!!! I would like to say thank you to those who responded to my thread. Every post was excellent helpful and easily understood. 3 long nights (4am) a lot of banging my head but after constantly cycling it I sat there numb then I thought why not open the drain to the fuel bowl to see if it was full then I closed it cycled 3 times and it started right up,a bit rough at 1st but smoothed out quickly. I'm now thinking there may have been an air lock involved towards the end.
Once again thank you all!
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The fuel bowl was air locked? Huh, that's a new one for me. Glad you got it figured out, congrats.
 
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Originally Posted by TravisLauter

You can see small plastic right where the copper washer is.
Glad to hear you got it sorted, but to bring my two cents worth and 25+ years of wrenching on EFI gasoline cars, that looks like the injector seal on a typical gasoline motor that goes into the manifold to seal the injector to the intake manifold... they are made out of rubber and sit in that location.

Now why a diesel would have that on it is beyond me. which injector did that come from, and secondly who swapped out the injector on the initial recall to install a long lead injector? did your have that recall? Mine did with the PO/original owner, how much you want to bet some retard in a dealership who does not normally work on diesels put that on 20+ years ago?
 
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