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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 10:15 AM
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Dana M300 Cover

Got the aluminum cover installed.

The oil removed was dark and dirty at 59k miles, very little metal on the magnet to my relief. Not too bad considering the weight this truck has moved.

Used Amsoil 75-90 at 4 quarts. Decided to run Amsoil as it was cheaper than the motorcraft and is a better lube. I did ask Ford390gashog about the Shell Spirax he seemed to like, but it was too difficult to source.

If you want to do this for your dually, you will need to source longer bolts and the OEM cover.

The bolts I used are M10x1.5 35mm long, torqued to 35lb-ft. I couldn't find a torque spec for the aluminum cover, so went with what felt appropriate.

I stuck with OEM ford bolts since the organic zinc coating is best, but I imagine stainless steel socket caps would look good as well.

Depending on the year, the housing will look different. The 17/18 trucks have the heavy duty iron webbing vs the lighter webbing on the 19+ pickups. The covers are the same, so no problems there.






 
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DSLTRK60
Got the aluminum cover installed.

The oil removed was dark and dirty at 59k miles, very little metal on the magnet to my relief. Not too bad considering the weight this truck has moved.

Used Amsoil 75-90 at 4 quarts. Decided to run Amsoil as it was cheaper than the motorcraft and is a better lube. I did ask Ford390gashog about the Shell Spirax he seemed to like, but it was too difficult to source.

If you want to do this for your dually, you will need to source longer bolts and the OEM cover.

The bolts I used are M10x1.5 35mm long, torqued to 35lb-ft. I couldn't find a torque spec for the aluminum cover, so went with what felt appropriate.

I stuck with OEM ford bolts since the organic zinc coating is best, but I imagine stainless steel socket caps would look good as well.

Depending on the year, the housing will look different. The 17/18 trucks have the heavy duty iron webbing vs the lighter webbing on the 19+ pickups. The covers are the same, so no problems there.

What is the correct part # for the Dually cover?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 01:09 PM
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What is the correct part # for the Dually cover?
LC34-4033-CB

Ford doesn't offer it for sale through their parts dealers yet. You will have to find someone selling it as a takeoff.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 05:05 PM
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The Ford shop manual doesn't distinguish between aluminum vs steel cover for the M300. Shows torque value of 66 lbft.


 
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DSLTRK60
Got the aluminum cover installed.

The oil removed was dark and dirty at 59k miles, very little metal on the magnet to my relief. Not too bad considering the weight this truck has moved.

Used Amsoil 75-90 at 4 quarts. Decided to run Amsoil as it was cheaper than the motorcraft and is a better lube. I did ask Ford390gashog about the Shell Spirax he seemed to like, but it was too difficult to source.

If you want to do this for your dually, you will need to source longer bolts and the OEM cover.

The bolts I used are M10x1.5 35mm long, torqued to 35lb-ft. I couldn't find a torque spec for the aluminum cover, so went with what felt appropriate.

I stuck with OEM ford bolts since the organic zinc coating is best, but I imagine stainless steel socket caps would look good as well.

Depending on the year, the housing will look different. The 17/18 trucks have the heavy duty iron webbing vs the lighter webbing on the 19+ pickups. The covers are the same, so no problems there.

Aluminum cover looks great! I’ve been wanting to get an oem alum cover for my 17 drw.

Isn’t the recommended rear end gear oil weight 75w/140, for our Dana M-300’s?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr8dog69
Isn’t the recommended rear end gear oil weight 75w/140, for our Dana M-300’s?
Correct 75w140


 
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 10:04 PM
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Aluminum cover looks great! I’ve been wanting to get an oem alum cover for my 17 drw.

Isn’t the recommended rear end gear oil weight 75w/140, for our Dana M-300’s?
It's a bit confusing, the Ford manual specifies 80-90w for the gas trucks with the M300 and 75-140w for the diesel.

What makes it even more convoluted is if you look at the Ford spec number for the diesel, it's the same number for the 80-90w oil.

I had the Motorcraft 80-90W dealership fill for about 59000 miles and the gears looked great.

I asked Amsoil about it and said they recommend the 75-90 for my truck. He mentioned the 75-140 would work, but will rob some HP and milage.

 
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Originally Posted by stryder
The Ford shop manual doesn't distinguish between aluminum vs steel cover for the M300. Shows torque value of 66 lbft.
The bolts that were on the existing steel cover were tight, probably much more than 66 lb-ft. But the tech at the local dealer might have put it on.

66 lb-ft seems too tight for the aluminum cover. I checked the aftermarket specs like Maghytec, Banks and Afe, they all hovered around 25-30 lb-ft.

I'll keep an eye on it for leaks.
 
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congrats on the cover swap.

I replaced mine with an after market finned one that holds 2 extra qts of fluid.

 
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congrats on the cover swap.

I replaced mine with an after market finned one that holds 2 extra qts of fluid.
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I considered the aftermarket cover, but they do impede pinion bearing oiling, which are incidentally the hardest worked component in the M300. Ford390gashog can attest to that.

Banks had a good video demonstrating the fluid dynamics with both a stock and dished cover.

It's also the reason why I chose the 90wt oil, better flow to the head pinion bearing.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2022 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DSLTRK60
It's a bit confusing, the Ford manual specifies 80-90w for the gas trucks with the M300 and 75-140w for the diesel.

What makes it even more convoluted is if you look at the Ford spec number for the diesel, it's the same number for the 80-90w oil.

I had the Motorcraft 80-90W dealership fill for about 59000 miles and the gears looked great.

I asked Amsoil about it and said they recommend the 75-90 for my truck. He mentioned the 75-140 would work, but will rob some HP and milage.
Yeah I agree, It’s frustrating when even the ford manual basically contradicts itself or doesn’t clarify on viscosity grades.

I wonder how much cooler the M-300 runs using the thinner 80w/90? I’ve shot my rear cover after towing and my IR gun usually shows 160-170 F. Not sure how accurate that reading is. I do have 4.10 gears. Not sure if they run any cooler or hotter?
 
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The oil viscosity specified is based on the load the surfaces are going to see. Specifying a higher viscosity for use with the diesel in the same rear end makes sense because it's transferring more torque and rated to tow more load = greater forces = more film strength required. Not using a high enough viscosity can leave you unprotected. More load transferred, or work performed on the gears and fluid, the higher the temp is going to be. The higher the temp the thinner the oil gets and the less protection you'll have at a given viscosity. Possibly forcing a step up to a higher one. If you drive with a light foot and only tow light loads the 75/90 might be just fine. If you use the truck I would stick with the 75/140.

FYI IR guns shoot a cone out the front of them and take an average of what reflects back. So at 6"-12" away from a diff cover it's going to be pretty accurate. If you're shooting from the back bumper of the truck you're potentially going to be picking up an average temperature of the rear end, the ground, exhaust, and anything else in the vicinity depending on the quality of your gun.

This reminds me my F-450 is probably due for some new gear lube.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2022 | 08:19 PM
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Anyone have a gold plug? I have one on order to replace my fill plug when I change my diff fluid. This is the one I ordered. It was recommended to me by Tim at Gold Plug because it has a much stronger magnet than the factory style they sell that uses a 3/8" ratchet to tighten/remove. https://goldplug.com/shop/ip04x/
 
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Originally Posted by DSLTRK60
The bolts that were on the existing steel cover were tight, probably much more than 66 lb-ft. But the tech at the local dealer might have put it on.

66 lb-ft seems too tight for the aluminum cover. I checked the aftermarket specs like Maghytec, Banks and Afe, they all hovered around 25-30 lb-ft.

I'll keep an eye on it for leaks.
There should have been some thread locker on the factory bolts, so that might be why they seemed to be torqued higher when removing.

I did the “good-n-snug” method with a 3/8 ratchet when installing mine….probably around 40-50ft-lbs. Still dry after 10k miles.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2022 | 06:11 PM
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Do the M300's use a gasket from the factory or sealant? If it's a gasket, are they a reusable style like a Lube Locker?
 
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