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Old Nov 10, 2021 | 01:53 PM
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Hi. I just picked up an early 99 F450 with 135,000 miles. In 170 miles it uses enough oil that it’s just barely on the tip of the dipstick. I replaced the fuel filter and it looks brand new and fuel in the bowl looks perfect after using this much oil. The turbo appears to be in excellent shape with no excessive play in the shaft. Do the injector orings ever go out without dumping oil into the filter bowl? Has anyone seen this much oil consumption through the ccv caused by a dirty air filter? The engine has essentially zero blow by. Thanks
 
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Old Nov 10, 2021 | 02:55 PM
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Whether or not the oil can end up in the filter is a topic of discussion. I would suspect O-rings if it's not leaking out somewhere else and you don't have a blow by issue.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 04:04 PM
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When I had bad injector INTERNAL O-rings, the truck would burn a gallon of oil every couple of hours and the fuel filter was as clean as can be.
 
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How likely would it be for the injectors to be bad at 135,000? I suppose after awhile age probably plays a part to. Is internal leakage something that can be checked with AE or any other method?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 08:35 PM
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I half wonder if the injector wouldn't be somewhat in better health w/ 235k or more. My personal opinion, #1 killer of engines is heat. #2 is long stretches sitting. Engines are designed and built to move, if they're not moving they're not lubricating, and everything in life is better with the proper amount of lubrication.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 08:44 PM
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Injector o-rings would be a likely suspect. The clogged air filter causing excessive PCV vacuum is easy enough to troubleshoot, but that would have to be a pretty clogged air filter. A little bit of seepage past the turbocharger rings wouldn't likely account for that much oil loss without making itself obvious. I don't believe this will show up on any diagnostic programs.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2021 | 08:49 PM
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Pressurizing the hpo system w/ shop air should confirm or deny an injector o-ring leak, be it internal or otherwise. Do a search for the "Cody Test", should bring up the details for preforming the test.,
 
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How likely would it be for the injectors to be bad at 135,000? I suppose after awhile age probably plays a part to. Is internal leakage something that can be checked with AE or any other method?
It's always possible. It's also possible that they've been changed already and damaged upon installation. I sold a 72,000 mile engine to Firefighter, that had a long start. He found a bad injector O-ring.
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Pressurizing the hpo system w/ shop air should confirm or deny an injector o-ring leak, be it internal or otherwise. Do a search for the "Cody Test", should bring up the details for preforming the test.,
This is one method but something to consider....HPOP hits some 2800 PSI but you don't get that with air pressure. As a result, I believe that there could still be a bad O-ring even if it doesn't show up in the Cody test.
 
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
This is one method but something to consider....HPOP hits some 2800 PSI but you don't get that with air pressure. As a result, I believe that there could still be a bad O-ring even if it doesn't show up in the Cody test.
That is correct, I've found a couple threads relating to that and had some personal experience with it as well. I actually had to use a stethoscope to hear a faint leak during my injector diagnostics.

Edit: I do remember a thread here where a member had to use a hydraulic hand pump to get a high pressure leak to show itself. So there's always that route I suppose.
 
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