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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 01:44 PM
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Saginaw power steering pump

I am installing a Saginaw power steering pump in place of the original. Because of some previous thoughts, I ditched my old one along with the bracket (you are all aware those brackets are hard to come by). So I decided to upgrade to a better pump and had to buy their specialty bracket to hold it. Have you had any good/bad experiences with swapping over to the newer style? Truck hasn’t ran in awhile and I planned on blowing out all of the old fluid trapped in the system. In a while I mean over 10 years ago.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 05:55 PM
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List your vehicle specifics so we can better help you.
"Have you had any good/bad experiences with swapping over to the newer style?"
If you mean by newer the Saginaw pump It is not actually newer and has been around since the 60's but never was a Ford option in Ford trucks so the power steering lines are something that need to be fabricated to match up with a Ford truck power steering gear box. The Saginaw pump was available in Ford vans and some cars including the bracketry for Ford motors.
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 06:05 PM
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Like Redroad says, what engine?

I swapped my Ford pump for a Saginaw. Used a bracket kit from Wild Horses that bolted right up to my 400. The kit is really good. And the Saginaw pump is sooooo much better than the Ford pump.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 06:12 PM
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Awesome! That’s the kit that I bought from them. About to install it this week. You said I need to modify the original steering hose fittings? I bought it because of the good reviews.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Spot1976
Awesome! That’s the kit that I bought from them. About to install it this week. You said I need to modify the original steering hose fittings? I bought it because of the good reviews.
The only modification I remember doing, was to shorten the hard line on the K member. That's the line that makes a loop on the K member. It's just a low pressure cooler.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 06:30 PM
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Should be an interesting installation. I know it came with a hose. But it appears to be a high pressure hose. I’m also not an expert tubing guy so we will see.
 
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Should be an interesting installation. I know it came with a hose. But it appears to be a high pressure hose. I’m also not an expert tubing guy so we will see.
It does come with the high pressure hose. The reason I had to shorten the hardline on the K member, is because the angle of the inlet on the pump required it. Your truck may be different though. Mine is a '79 F150 4wd. Don't worry, if you have shorten the hard line, there's nothing to it. You'll understand when you go to hook everything up.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 10:04 PM
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I'm not sure what the love affair is with the Saginaw pumps. anyone ever owned a Jeep or a Chevy ? I've had every bit as much trouble with them as I have Ford pumps. probably more actually.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 440 sixpack
I'm not sure what the love affair is with the Saginaw pumps. anyone ever owned a Jeep or a Chevy ? I've had every bit as much trouble with them as I have Ford pumps. probably more actually.
The original equipment pumps in our trucks work fine when kept to the truck's original equipment but once you have a need to step past the boundaries of the specs of original pump like oversized tires and wheels the original equipment pump can't keep up that's where the variety in the specs of Saginaw pumps can make the difference and be quite useful.

Pump flow/valve rating: This is another aspect of the pump that varied completely by original application. The OEMs would specify what flow rating was required based on vehicle weight, steering gear piston diameter, and whether or not the pump was running a Hydro-Boost brake system. The Saginaw pump in OEM applications can be set from 2.0 on up to 4.5 gpm.
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I have 305's on my high boy and it works fine. I have 285's on my '79 F250 4x4 and it works fine. amazingly I've my stock brakes work just fine too as they have for the last 45 years.

If someone want to waste their time and money that's fine none of my business. this just comes up so often it should just be pointed out to those who assume this is a needed alteration that 99% of the time it's not . so don't jump on the bandwagon until you know a chevy pump is something you actually need. guys with 235's on a 2wd are doing it and for what ? that's all I'm saying.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 11:54 PM
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Were you attacked by a Saginaw as a child?
 
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Originally Posted by 440 sixpack
I have 305's on my high boy and it works fine. I have 285's on my '79 F250 4x4 and it works fine. amazingly I've my stock brakes work just fine too as they have for the last 45 years.

If someone want to waste their time and money that's fine none of my business. this just comes up so often it should just be pointed out to those who assume this is a needed alteration that 99% of the time it's not . so don't jump on the bandwagon until you know a chevy pump is something you actually need. guys with 235's on a 2wd are doing it and for what ? that's all I'm saying.
These are great points. The main thing is the pump, no matter which one, is not being used in an application that exceeds its' originally designed specs or it will fail prematurely or under perform or both.
 
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There are so many places to waste time and money on old rigs I don't have to get creative I guess.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2021 | 01:20 PM
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There are so many places to waste time and money on old rigs I don't have to get creative I guess.
You've won the internet today~~~~

Isn't everything on a 42 year Rusted Truck a "waste of money" LOL!

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It's along the same lines as when my wife asks, "So the truck is fixed now?"
 
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