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Old Jan 6, 2021 | 09:25 AM
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2002 Escape hi-pitched whine above 2000rpm

It's been a while since I've posted here, probably because my old Escape has been behaving itself, until now.

My 2002 3.0L automatic Escape has 223,000 miles on it and I just returned from an 1800 mile R/T from SE Arizona to Denver. It's generally running okay but as soon as I get above 2,000rpm I hear a high pitched whining sound that promptly goes away as soon as I drop back below 2,000rpm. When I'm parked I can hear a slight whine above 2,000rpm but it's not nearly as loud as when I'm driving. I checked the AT fluid while it was idling and it's at a satisfactory level and doesn't look or smell burned. I've put up with this problem for over 200 miles and still haven't pin-pointed it's source other than the front end of the car and maybe the drivers side. For a while I thought it might be the water pump belt tensioner so I replaced it but the problem remained. I also suspected the water pump but since it's not leaking water I doubt if it's going bad.

While I was checking the problem while parked I also noticed that it didn't want to rev above 4,000-4,500rpm. It's start missing and refuse to rev higher. The rig has fairly new plugs with 15,000 miles on them. I'm thinking this is a separate problem.

If anyone here has any ideas about these problems, particularly the first one I'd really be interested in what you think!

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Old Jan 8, 2021 | 08:54 AM
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Yesterday I removed the serpentine belt that spins the AC compressor, PS pump, and alternator. I then went for a short drive in hopes of not hearing the whining noise but there it was again. I wish the hell I could figure this puzzle out!

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Old Jan 9, 2021 | 08:16 AM
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Check for vacuum leaks. Take some brake cleaner or some starting fluid and slowly spray the vacuum hoses and intake. If the idle changes then it's a leak. Also, if you have a long extension or something similar, you could use it like a stethoscope and probe around until you find it. Sorry I don't have better advice for you.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2021 | 08:00 AM
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I've tried the long extension trick. I did hear a noise from the tensioner pully on the water pump drive so I replaced it but it didn't help. It just doesn't sound like a vacuum leak and it's barely noticeable when the cars not moving. Yes, perhaps it's a failing transaxle but it came on so quickly and so loud and proud that I can't help feel that it's something else. The sound it makes reminds me of when the rear end went bad on a 1957 Ford I owned as a kid. It started as almost nothing and gradually got worse and worse until it failed completely. I'm thinking I'll check the front wheel bearings next. I really don't want it to be a failing transaxle! At 223,000 miles it's not worth paying a garage to repair or replace it and at 73 I'm just not at all eager to jump into doing it myself like I was when I was younger (been there, done that, GROAN!).

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This afternoon I removed both front wheels and checked the car for bad front wheel bearings but everything seemed tight. However, it was good that I checked because I did find that I have a need for new front brake pads coming up.
 

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My $0.02:
To eliminate mechanical issues, accelerate to where you hear the noise then put it in neutral allowing the RPM's to drop. If the sound doesn't drop immediately, then it could be a wheel bearing or similar issue.
My bet is that it's a vacuum leak as pointed out.
My '02 had a similar "whistle" but it was always there from the day we bought it with 56 miles on the odometer. Mine seemed to just come from the intake manifold. Never found a leak, so I just got used to it.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2021 | 12:03 PM
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Several people have suggested a vacuum leak. The thing is the noise is loudest during acceleration, a normally low vacuum condition, but it goes away when I'm cruising below 2,000rpm, a higher vacuum condition. It's pretty much gone at idle another high vacuum condition. It's for these reasons that I've been focusing on it being a mechanical issue such as a failing drive gear in the transaxle. However, my one hope that' it's not a failing transaxle is that the AT fluid shows no sign of a problem such as a brown burned look or odor. Even though I didn't find any obvious play in the front wheel bearings yesterday I'm hoping that it's early enough in the failure cycle that the obvious play I was looking for hasn't occurred yet.

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