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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 01:14 PM
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2019 With metal in fuel filter

Hello all, I have a 2019 F450 with 14,272 miles and today I changed the fuel filter to find what look like some metal shavings in the bottom of main housing. I have drained the separator many times in the last year and a half. I am also the original owner. I have been using Fords PM-22 religiously also. It was a very small amount but noticable. Should there be anything like this from it being the first change or do I need to be worried? This is my first 6.7 and I have always owned 7.3’s. It’s also just gotten it’s third oil change last week.
 
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Hello all, I have a 2019 F450 with 14,272 miles and today I changed the fuel filter to find what look like some metal shavings in the bottom of main housing. I have drained the separator many times in the last year and a half. I am also the original owner. I have been using Fords PM-22 religiously also. It was a very small amount but noticable. Should there be anything like this from it being the first change or do I need to be worried? This is my first 6.7 and I have always owned 7.3’s. It’s also just gotten it’s third oil change last week.
I have only had mine changed once by the dealer on my 19. I have similar miles as you. Doesn't the main filter under the hood come out as an entire unit????? There is just a cup to hold it and secure it and when you change it it just comes out as a unit????? Hope that makes sense. If there was anything in the bottom of that canister it wouldn't be in the fuel correct?
 
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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 04:34 PM
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The filter under the truck is what he is referring too. That would be the only way to detect any metal particles.

At this point I would suspect just stuff in the tank from the factory. Change them again in a couple of thousand miles.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 05:20 PM
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Yes, its the main filter housing next to the fuel tank. Senix, I'm hoping its just what you say left over particles form manufacturing process. I was planning on changing them again in a few thousand miles, maybe 5K and see what I get. It runs great! Just towed our Sandpiper 5th wheel around the block to check everything, 13.5K dry weight/15K max weight and it pulled great. Lots more power than my old 7.3L ! Thanks
 
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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 10:01 PM
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I just changed my fuel filters a couple days ago for the second time; I'm at 30,000 miles now on my '17, and found a few metal shavings in the bottom of my water separator filter housing as well. I don't remember seeing any on the first change. Am hoping it's not from my CP4, and will ask the only Ford dealership I know of that actually has a respectable service department. I have also used fuel additive with every fill up.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2020 | 11:34 AM
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Add me to the list. I've noticed a very small amount of fine shavings in the frame mounted filter during the past 2 fuel filter changes (changed every 15k). I use PM-22 in every tank since new and pump bio-diesel between 5%-15% from the same station except when traveling. I tried to get a photo from the last change but was unsuccessful. Next time I will take a photo of the debris in the bottom of the housing rather than moving it to a separate container.



 
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Old Oct 20, 2020 | 08:30 AM
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with a 2019 it should be a warranty claim.

they will probally try to blame it on water in fuel

I personally think under some conditions, the high pressure pumps in these things dry start. the ford video on how to start these things is counter intuitive...they want you to press the start button...wait...then push the brake. this wait period probally allows fuel pressure to get established.....vs just hitting the brake and button at the same time.

 
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dirthawg
Add me to the list. I've noticed a very small amount of fine shavings in the frame mounted filter during the past 2 fuel filter changes (changed every 15k). I use PM-22 in every tank since new and pump bio-diesel between 5%-15% from the same station except when traveling. I tried to get a photo from the last change but was unsuccessful. Next time I will take a photo of the debris in the bottom of the housing rather than moving it to a separate container.
Yep ×2. I have as well. I will take pics next change as well.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
with a 2019 it should be a warranty claim.

they will probally try to blame it on water in fuel

I personally think under some conditions, the high pressure pumps in these things dry start. the ford video on how to start these things is counter intuitive...they want you to press the start button...wait...then push the brake. this wait period probally allows fuel pressure to get established.....vs just hitting the brake and button at the same time.
If this is how it's working, then Ford should have programmed a delay for the push to start vehicles. When people complain "my truck doesn't start right away" well, read the manual. The push to start shouldn't be any different from remote start.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 06:18 PM
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If this is how it's working, then Ford should have programmed a delay for the push to start vehicles. When people complain "my truck doesn't start right away" well, read the manual. The push to start shouldn't be any different from remote start.
agree 109%

dont tell me it’s not covered under warranty becuase there was water in the fuel...fix the water seperator FORD so that it actually separates any water. Duh.

 
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Old Oct 25, 2020 | 06:55 AM
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Metal in the fuel filter is not good. I would take the truck to the dealer for the next filter change. Have then inspect for metal. Something is not right if you have anything besides fuel in the filter housing. I would also stop buying fuel at that station. There is no reason to risk a huge repair bill.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2020 | 08:20 AM
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This has happend twice for me on my 19. Once at 10k then again at 25k. I use double the amount of power service and most of my fuel comes straight from a tanker. I always drain the water seperator monthly. Never have found any water. Also have a drag tank with a water seperator that ive never seen a drop of water in. Ive let my dealer know and the response was they cant do anything till it breaks.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2020 | 09:07 AM
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Better than 80% chance those metal shavings are CP4 related -- look for same to take out the injectors, cause other damage later. I just can't justify wasting $50-65K for a new Super Duty with all the 6.7L's yet to be fixed problems -- the one that bugs me the most is that rat's nest of plumbing, electrical under the hood -- worst I've seen across all manufacturers.

Ford makes the best truck bodies and their trannies are superb -- too bad that Made in Mexico Powerstroke 6.7L isn't up to Cummins standards. Mexican friends (some of the best techs I know) tell me they want nothing to do with it --- can't blame them.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2020 | 05:03 PM
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This is what I found. Not a lot but something that I don’t think should be there.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2020 | 05:42 PM
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We need some pre 2007 fuel.

i personally do not believe that the fuel lube additives are enough think about it....if fuel lube additives work...why aren’t we using fuel additives and straight fuel for 2 cycle engines? A situations of guel needing to provide lube in the two cycle world is done with a oil to fuel mix. This is not common practice in modern diesel because it will Drive up emissions .

 
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