https://youtu.be/vIDatHSUQTQ

 

You Tube

 

Cliff notes?

 

the video theme is that the state of the art in tuning can tune to a level that reduces soot Accumulation and thereby reducing regens resulting in increasing power, reducing loss fuel via regen, by monitoring soot and adjusting air / fuel to optimize burn at all power levels . All with the dpf still installed.

 

Thanks for posting Fritz. Didn't see that before.

 

When I first bought my truck, and then after when I realized the warranty and even the extended warranty I bought would not cover emissions to 125K miles, I started researching deletes. I still have a folder with all that stuff I printed up and wrote down. Then the EPA started going to town last year. I'm lucky that where I live and how I drive keeps my emissions happy. I never knew all this stuff about emissions when I first bought my truck.

I am still not against deleting when someone has an emissions based problem they can't solve, but deleting just to do it like every stock truck has problems is asinine to me. JMO. Then I started to see more new guys post up about issues with deleted trucks. Before anyone says that a forum like this makes a few problems seem like a lot of problems, I get that. It's kind of like the same thing with the CP4.2 topic. I'm just making an observation, that's it. I know plenty of users here run deleted trucks with no problems. I'm just wondering what's going to happen if someone has a problem and there is no more support because of the EPA enforcement? I'm just thinking out loud.

 

Like this guy: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...need-help.html

 

I saw that one. I'd never buy a used deleted truck without knowing the owner, having the flash tuner with stock files and tunes, knowing the maintenance schedule and use, and having the stock parts to put back on if need be.

 

I couldn't have said it better myself. LOL

 

Dpf deletes aren't a waste of time until they make them more reliable.

 

That remains to be seen in light of the increased enforcement by the EPA. All the big players are moving forward and using emissions compliant tuning. Like I've said before, you will have the smaller shops continue to use what they have with NOS (New Old Stock) but I doubt you will see advances in deleting due to the pressure of the EPA being out there now actively looking for this stuff. JMO.

 

My 15 has yet to problem

 

You don't have enough miles yet. Once you get to 120,000-130,000 or so it might have some issues requiring a complete replacement at the cost of 3k. Add that to the premium we paid for the 6.7L engine upgrade and it tends to leave a bad taste in our mouths.

 

I do get it. I don't want to spend 3 grand to fix the system but it's much cheaper than a new truck. You could spend 3 grand on a new transmission and I am not sure weather a guy wouldn't repair a transmission so he could keep his truck. I am not sure a guy wouldn't drop in a new motor ether. What the real question is weather you want to replace the DPF system? I know guys hate it but I don't even notice it there. I do like the fact that my truck doesn't smoke when I step on it.

 

When it comes to the 6R140, as long as the fluid is being replaced so the additive package in the trans is allowing sufficient lubrication and maximum performance out of the trans. Like don't wait until 100k miles to change your fluid. IMO, if I had to replace my 6R140 and my truck was paid off, I'd probably buy a slightly built aftermarket 6R140 because I'd keep driving my truck. To me, buying a few cases of Mercon LV every 30k miles to flush it out is cheaper than having to replace the transmission. But I still haven't figured out what I'm going to do at 60k miles which is coming up. I may send out a sample to see how it's doing.

As to the DPF, as long as the truck is being driven in a fashion to keep the regens in check by finishing them or allowing them the finish, you probably shouldn't have problems. But there are exceptions to every rule if you get my drift. I just answered a thread on here where the guy has a F450. It probably idles a ton and regens probably don't complete so it plugged up from what it sounds like. In all honesty, hopefully I get a lot of miles out of mine. Then when it's time to replace it, I won't fret as much with the cost because it will be paid off and much cheaper in my view than going out and buying a new truck with a fresh DPF or a fresh 6R140 or rather the new 10 speed trans in the 6R140 case.

Sorry for the slight hijack.