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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 11:33 AM
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Am in the process of wiring a 239 6v system, the gauges I bought are 12 volt so I bought a step up transformer, ( 6v to 12v), to run the gauges. I am told that the current from the generator goes through the ammeter and back to the battery. My question is the wiring diagram that I have shows a wire from the ammeter going to the breakers and supposedly back to the battery, now with the gauges being 12 volt am I not sending 12volt back into a 6 volt system?
 
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ynot321AB1
Am in the process of wiring a 239 6v system, the gauges I bought are 12 volt so I bought a step up transformer, ( 6v to 12v), to run the gauges. I am told that the current from the generator goes through the ammeter and back to the battery. My question is the wiring diagram that I have shows a wire from the ammeter going to the breakers and supposedly back to the battery, now with the gauges being 12 volt am I not sending 12volt back into a 6 volt system?
Yes you will, and it will let the smoke out of your new transformer. The 12 volt circuits have to be isolated.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 01:14 PM
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You could mount an alternator on it and convert the whole truck to 12v.
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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Did you truly buy a step-up transformer, or an electronic device that makes 12v from 6v? A transformer only works on alternating current, not DC like vehicles have.

I agree with Mark, might as well convert the whole truck to 12v.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Did you truly buy a step-up transformer, or an electronic device that makes 12v from 6v? A transformer only works on alternating current, not DC like vehicles have.

I agree with Mark, might as well convert the whole truck to 12v.
Yes, you can have a DC to DC transformer, but I doubt it would be practical for the novice in this application.

 
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Other than buying an alternator, how much is involved into going from 6 volt to 12 volt?
 
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You will need to change the heater motor or use a voltage reducer. All the light bulbs will need to be changed to 12V. Since you are using aftermarket 12V gauges, they should have the proper senders for oil, water temp, and fuel for 12V. The switches, start solenoid, and starter will work fine on 12V.
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Addendum to Mark's

The horn and horn relay will work on 12 volts too, but will sound different. Are you using a complete new instrument cluster set of gauges or the trio under dash set? The reason I ask is that if you are going to use the stock ammeter you will need to reverse the direction the wire that passes through the ammeter loop in order for it to read correctly, other than that no further changes to the wiring is necessary (you will have redundant wires from the old generator and voltage regulator).
Just to recap the changes:
1) Battery & bulbs
2) Voltage reducer for heater motor (or upgrade to 12v motor).
 
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Originally Posted by 49fordv8f4
You will need to change the heater motor or use a voltage reducer. All the light bulbs will need to be changed to 12V. Since you are using aftermarket 12V gauges, they should have the proper senders for oil, water temp, and fuel for 12V. The switches, start solenoid, and starter will work fine on 12V.
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OK, since I do not as of yet have a heater and only a taillight that I can change the bulds in, my question is how does the alternator mount onto the 239? I presume that it does not sit in the cradle on top and can I get one that works with the wide belt? Where would be a place to find an alternator, have checked ebay without result.
 
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Speedway Motors has a number of alternator brackets and pulleys for the flathead V8. They also have alternators that look like generators for the flathead, but they are pricey. You can change out the tail light, parking light, and headlight bulbs for 12V bulbs.
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If you already have an alternator -
Amazon Amazon

If you need an alternator -
Amazon Amazon

If you need the wide pulley -
https://www.ebay.com/i/133091056600?...xoC4nkQAvD_BwE
 
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Thank you, that is what I am going to do
 
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