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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 10:26 AM
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Open Range AT vs Toyo Open Country AT2

Shout out for the new Open Range AT tires I had installed yesterday at Les Schwab tire center on my 2017 F350 4x4 LB 6.7

Toyo Open Country AT2 - I have run these on 4 different trucks including my 2017 F350 so I know these tires well. Great tire I have been happy with except for wet/rain conditions. Tractions in the wet kind of blows. Not the worst tire but not confidence inspiring and here in the Pacific NW it rains cats and dogs. I routinely break the rears loose at 40+ mph, yes I'm a lead foot.

Open Range AT this is a newer Les Schwab brand tire priced $10 higher than the Open Country AT2. I liked the tread pattern better, more rubber contact with the road. Triple snowflake rating. 60,000 for the Open Range AT vs 50,000 for the Open Country AT2. Put about 100 miles on the new set yesterday. First thing I noticed was significantly reduced rolling resistance vs the Open Country AT2, its like the F350 is on roller skate wheels now. Looked like a bump in in mpg. VERY quiet. The Open Country is fairly quiet, some minor roar at freeway speeds but the Open Range is like its not even there noise wise.

So far so good just wanted to give these new tires a shout out. Apples to apples comparison same size (LT275/65R-20 Load Range E) same air pressure.


 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 10:48 AM
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I put a set of these on my previous RAM when the junk OEM all season wore out and found pretty much the same performance as what you are describing. I'm also in the PNW so the performance in the rain and wet conditions is a must. My F-250 came with GY Wrangler AT Adventure w/Kevlar and I'm finding their performance is similar to the Open Range on my RAM though there is a little more road noise when I run them at the factory recommended PSI (60 front/65 rear) than at the max of 80 when I'm towing. I'd definitely put a set of the Open Range on the F-250 when the GY wear down.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 11:42 PM
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Keep us updated as you get some miles on them. I've been eyeing these when my Goodyear Kevlar's wear out. I'm also looking at the Goodyear Duratrac's, but those don't seem to come with any mileage warranty.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 08:28 PM
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I’ve had my Open Range LT245/75/17 tires on for 2 months and over 3500 miles. Mostly towing 16k 5’er, mostly dry and I’ve had no issues. Handles well and very quiet using factory recommended tire pressures. I recommend these tires.

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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 11:48 PM
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Those look cool, too. Some would say not as cool as a full M/T tire, but they'll certainly last longer
 
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Make sure the Off Brand Tire you choose is made in America. Another difficulty with Private Label brands is they're discontinued often. Also, if you have a Tire failure when you're out of the Private Label area you're screwed. Measure the value or, savings associated with the Private Label vs Name Brand, Nation Wide availability.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 05:58 PM
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Over priced

The open range is Made by sumitomo.
since losing there exclusive contract with toyo, les schwab no longer is able to carry a name brand tire and be competitive in the market. This is where the open range comes in, which is essentially a falken wildpeak. Les schwab is I highly profit driven company that marks there tires up considerably more than they’re competitors so they’ve been forced to carry only in house brands. You can purchase The tried and tested for considerably less than the open range.
the falken wildpeak is a solid tire for the price, but I wouldn’t pay $75+ per tire just because they’re sold at les schwab.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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No the Falken Wildpeak looks nothing like the Open Range AT. Loving the Open Range so far, 3+ weeks in and WAY better traction than the Toyo Open Country on wet/rain. I'm daring it to snow so I can test the Open Range, they are a 3 snowflake rated tire. If the weather gets uppity I have studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta's in the garage at the ready.
 
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Weather you think that they look that they look like the wildpeaks or not is up for debate for sure. But I’d bet you paid well over $250 market price for an off brand tire that is on par with a mid level tire.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 10:31 PM
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Weather you think that they look that they look like the wildpeaks or not is up for debate for sure. But I’d bet you paid well over $250 market price for an off brand tire that is on par with a mid level tire.
I priced these vs the Goodyear Duratracs and for the 285/75-18 size I'm looking at, they were within a few dollars of each other and the Open Range comes with a 55,000 mile warranty. Goodyear doesn't even offer a mileage warranty in that size.

For my play rig, I will likely install Duratracs on it since those tires in the 315/75-16 size are relatively cheap these days at about $250 a tire.

Also, Les Schwab isn't going anywhere anytime soon here on the West Coast. They've been around for a long, long time. Anyone remember the "Free Beef" campaign?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam R
I priced these vs the Goodyear Duratracs and for the 285/75-18 size I'm looking at, they were within a few dollars of each other and the Open Range comes with a 55,000 mile warranty. Goodyear doesn't even offer a mileage warranty in that size.

For my play rig, I will likely install Duratracs on it since those tires in the 315/75-16 size are relatively cheap these days at about $250 a tire.

Also, Les Schwab isn't going anywhere anytime soon here on the West Coast. They've been around for a long, long time. Anyone remember the "Free Beef" campaign?
Been there done that on Duratracs never again, the set I had were horrible. Just saying.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by demasnicholas
Weather you think that they look that they look like the wildpeaks or not is up for debate for sure. But I’d bet you paid well over $250 market price for an off brand tire that is on par with a mid level tire.
Its not up for debate, they look nothing alike. I have run many top tires, Goodyear, Firestone, Toyo, these Open Range are the best so far. The Firestone and Toyo were also quite good with minor flaws, Firestone were noisy on my F150 and Ram 1500. Toyo not so great on wet pavement on another Ram 1500 and F350. Goodyear Duratracs on my F150 were by far the worst tire ever. Noisy, luggy at low speeds. They were never able to get them balanced, truck shook at speeds over 55mph. Finally gave up on them and went back to Toyo Open Country. Currently even happier with these new Open Range AT.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 09:07 AM
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Its not up for debate, they look nothing alike. I have run many top tires, Goodyear, Firestone, Toyo, these Open Range are the best so far. The Firestone and Toyo were also quite good with minor flaws, Firestone were noisy on my F150 and Ram 1500. Toyo not so great on wet pavement on another Ram 1500 and F350. Goodyear Duratracs on my F150 were by far the worst tire ever. Noisy, luggy at low speeds. They were never able to get them balanced, truck shook at speeds over 55mph. Finally gave up on them and went back to Toyo Open Country. Currently even happier with these new Open Range AT.
I have tried a wide variety of tires on my fleet of trucks, and I swore of Goodyear tires completely. They performed the worst and wore out the quickest, also the only tires that ever seem to blow out. Same on my fleet of big trucks, actually had my driver's asking me to please please please buy anything else other than Goodyear tires for the trucks and trailers. Duratracs were junk, I tried them on 4 company pickups, and never again even if they were selling for only $5 per tire.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam R
I priced these vs the Goodyear Duratracs and for the 285/75-18 size I'm looking at, they were within a few dollars of each other and the Open Range comes with a 55,000 mile warranty. Goodyear doesn't even offer a mileage warranty in that size.

For my play rig, I will likely install Duratracs on it since those tires in the 315/75-16 size are relatively cheap these days at about $250 a tire.

Also, Les Schwab isn't going anywhere anytime soon here on the West Coast. They've been around for a long, long time. Anyone remember the "Free Beef" campaign?
May want to look at Toyo Open Country R/T's. Comparable to Duratracs, but come with a warranty. I just put a set on and like them so far but have not put enough miles on yet to type up a review...
 
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 09:37 AM
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And I agree Tito’s are not as great as they say either.
 
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