2020 Price Bump $3,775
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2020 Price Bump $3,775
So I built my exact truck in a 2020 (fairly loaded platinum 350 SRW diesel), and the sticker price is $82,900. (Only difference is the increase HP/Torque, and 10 speed)
My truck sticker price for a 2019 was $79,125.
So looks like the new engine specs, and tranny is worth $3775. (high level... yes I know it has wireless charging and new front end etc.)
F150 10 speed gets 1mpg better than the 6 speed in the same F150. Super duty doesn't advertise MPG, but guessing MPG difference will be on par with that.
So at ~ $3/gallon, that is a 430,000 mile payback for the new tranny.
Anyone on the 2019 vs. 2020 debate, just some numbers for you to chew on.
Josh
My truck sticker price for a 2019 was $79,125.
So looks like the new engine specs, and tranny is worth $3775. (high level... yes I know it has wireless charging and new front end etc.)
F150 10 speed gets 1mpg better than the 6 speed in the same F150. Super duty doesn't advertise MPG, but guessing MPG difference will be on par with that.
So at ~ $3/gallon, that is a 430,000 mile payback for the new tranny.
Anyone on the 2019 vs. 2020 debate, just some numbers for you to chew on.
Josh
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I did the same with a Lariat build, came out to something like $2300 more than my 19. $1k of that is in the new diesel, the rest would be pro trailer backup, and whatever else is new and included, like the wireless charger.
When I bought my 19 I knew the 20's were coming and prices would go up. For those that are set on a 20, the increase isn't a deal breaker. Crazy thing is, they will only continue to go up in price, being that they already cost so much, how much higher can they go.
When I bought my 19 I knew the 20's were coming and prices would go up. For those that are set on a 20, the increase isn't a deal breaker. Crazy thing is, they will only continue to go up in price, being that they already cost so much, how much higher can they go.
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Mine was $2,250 more. Fairly loaded f250 Platinum. The 2017 guys are the ones that got great deals as they are steadily going up in price.
Anyway, I sold my loaded 2015 F150 with 44k miles on it for $35k in December. Ordered the 2019. It just worked out that way.
I personally like the 2019, I like the Platinum front end and it needed no improvement. The 2020 does nothing for me. They released enough info about the 2020 before mine came in and it didn't move me.
But if I needed a truck I would look at the 2020. Would put a level on it and 17-19 rear blocks.
Anyway, I sold my loaded 2015 F150 with 44k miles on it for $35k in December. Ordered the 2019. It just worked out that way.
I personally like the 2019, I like the Platinum front end and it needed no improvement. The 2020 does nothing for me. They released enough info about the 2020 before mine came in and it didn't move me.
But if I needed a truck I would look at the 2020. Would put a level on it and 17-19 rear blocks.
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Using only the OP's reported numbers (since subsequent posters did not mention their MSRP before and after... only citing the difference between the two), the price increase amounts to 4.75%.
When put in terms of percentage, the increase doesn't seem as bad as when put in terms of dollars, which are deep into 4 figures.
But these high dollar amount price increases, when viewed through the prism of percentages, are high simply because the prior year price upon which the increase is noticed is also very high.
If a truck price was $40,000 in 2000, and the price increased 4.75% per year for every year since, then 20 years later, in 2020, that same $40K truck would be $78,000, and the last year's price increase from 2019 to 2020 would be $3,705.
By comparison, the first year's price increase would be only $1,900.
So while $3,705 seems like a huge price increase compared to prior years, the high dollar amount of this price increase may be due in part to the high price of the previous year's model, which amplifies the effect of a small percentage price increase.
When put in terms of percentage, the increase doesn't seem as bad as when put in terms of dollars, which are deep into 4 figures.
But these high dollar amount price increases, when viewed through the prism of percentages, are high simply because the prior year price upon which the increase is noticed is also very high.
If a truck price was $40,000 in 2000, and the price increased 4.75% per year for every year since, then 20 years later, in 2020, that same $40K truck would be $78,000, and the last year's price increase from 2019 to 2020 would be $3,705.
By comparison, the first year's price increase would be only $1,900.
So while $3,705 seems like a huge price increase compared to prior years, the high dollar amount of this price increase may be due in part to the high price of the previous year's model, which amplifies the effect of a small percentage price increase.
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I have a tough time swallowing a 4.75% increase when the annual CPI increase has averaged around 2%.
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I built and priced a 2020 the exact same as my 2019. The price increase is $850 or 1.3%. 2020 MSRP $64,060. 2019 MSRP $63,210.
F250 Lariat Crew Cab, 6 3/4' box, 6.2L, 6-speed, 4x4, 3.73 E-locking, Lariate Ultimate Pkg, Chrome Pkg, 20" PVD wheels, adaptive steering, BLIS, LED head/tail lamps, marker lights, universal garage door opener, ultimate trailer tow camera system.
Consider that the 2020 includes Pre-collision assist as standard (not on my 2019) and Pro trailer back-up assist (not on my 2019).
Higher end trim lines with 7.3 or 6.7 engines and 10 speed are getting hit with larger price increases but consider that buyers have been chomping at the bit to get their 2020's on order despite the price increase. If we keep buying at the higher price, Ford will keep increasing until we cry uncle.
F250 Lariat Crew Cab, 6 3/4' box, 6.2L, 6-speed, 4x4, 3.73 E-locking, Lariate Ultimate Pkg, Chrome Pkg, 20" PVD wheels, adaptive steering, BLIS, LED head/tail lamps, marker lights, universal garage door opener, ultimate trailer tow camera system.
Consider that the 2020 includes Pre-collision assist as standard (not on my 2019) and Pro trailer back-up assist (not on my 2019).
Higher end trim lines with 7.3 or 6.7 engines and 10 speed are getting hit with larger price increases but consider that buyers have been chomping at the bit to get their 2020's on order despite the price increase. If we keep buying at the higher price, Ford will keep increasing until we cry uncle.
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I tried to do the same thing a couple days ago. Because of the way Ford packages features, it was not possible for me to build a truck identical to my 2018. Some things that were individually optioned on my truck were available only in other packages. My 2020 build ended up with a price increase plus $2,000. I noticed the diesel option consumed most of that price increase. Hard to say what the actual increase is since, again, there was no direct comparison possible in my build.
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Yeah, that's the tough part to swallow. The price increases from 2017 are making a future truck purchase difficult to swallow. I'd swear they are trying to convince me not to buy another one, but I think they are really looking to milk all of the profit they can out of the groups of people who flock to buy trucks.
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From: Frederick, CO
- 6.7 PSD option went from $9,200 to $10,500. Wow. In my build (Lariat Ultimate 4WD), that's the big difference.
- Adaptive steering was part of my Lariat Ultimate package w/ Trailering Tech Package, but it now stands alone as a $1,000 option. But BLIS was a stand-alone $590 option in 2019 but included in Trailering Tech package in 2020. So, the net is +400 for someone getting both adaptive steer and BLIS.
- Most of the options are the same price -- Tough Bed spray in liner, the 3.55 locking rear axle, mud flaps, floor liners, adaptive cruise control, etc. $0.00 difference.
- Delivery may have increased from $1,495 to $1,595. Not sure if that's a 2020 thing or if that had already happened this spring/summer on the newer 2019 builds.
The 2020 version of my 2019 would cost $2,350 more, which is 3.12%.
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So I built my exact truck in a 2020 (fairly loaded platinum 350 SRW diesel), and the sticker price is $82,900. (Only difference is the increase HP/Torque, and 10 speed)
My truck sticker price for a 2019 was $79,125.
So looks like the new engine specs, and tranny is worth $3775. (high level... yes I know it has wireless charging and new front end etc.)
F150 10 speed gets 1mpg better than the 6 speed in the same F150. Super duty doesn't advertise MPG, but guessing MPG difference will be on par with that.
So at ~ $3/gallon, that is a 430,000 mile payback for the new tranny.
Anyone on the 2019 vs. 2020 debate, just some numbers for you to chew on.
Josh
My truck sticker price for a 2019 was $79,125.
So looks like the new engine specs, and tranny is worth $3775. (high level... yes I know it has wireless charging and new front end etc.)
F150 10 speed gets 1mpg better than the 6 speed in the same F150. Super duty doesn't advertise MPG, but guessing MPG difference will be on par with that.
So at ~ $3/gallon, that is a 430,000 mile payback for the new tranny.
Anyone on the 2019 vs. 2020 debate, just some numbers for you to chew on.
Josh
Expect increases each and every year. The boat I ordered from Cobalt in 2017 inflated by $26,000 in 2020, for the exact same boat with no technological or hull differences what so ever.
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I would not call an additional 25HP and a touch over 100 ft. lbs. of torque as a huge upgrade and you won't even hit these numbers until you are close to 2,600RPM according to Ford. For less than the price difference in the engine alone, you could easily add a few mods to the 2019 that would surpass these "huge" gains for the 2020 if someone was strictly buying the new truck for more power over anything else.
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I would not call an additional 25HP and a touch over 100 ft. lbs. of torque as a huge upgrade and you won't even hit these numbers until you are close to 2,600RPM according to Ford. For less than the price difference in the engine alone, you could easily add a few mods to the 2019 that would surpass these "huge" gains for the 2020 if someone was strictly buying the new truck for more power over anything else.
We read your point about adding mods. Spend an addition 4K that gets you past the 2020 upcharge, lose your warranty on an extremely expensive engine, and not make the same power as the 2020. Makes sense to some I guess..
BTW, you may want to recheck the torque curve numbers on the 2020. Your numbers are a tad bit off. It’s 1,050 at 1,600 RPM.
http://www.trucktrend.com/news/1909-...0-lb-ft-torque
Price increases suck, but resale increases follow.
If you think this one is bad, Just wait for the next UAW contract retail price effect.
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The 2017 F350 and now my 2019 F450 has plenty of HP/Torque for me - it will pull anything I want it to. For that matter, my 2015 Duramax did too. I would never notice or need the increase we are talking about. To me it is simply bragging rights. I do however miss the pre-DEF fuel mileage of my 04 Duramax. That is me, and everyone is different. Plain and simple... buy what turns your crank or what you think is the best bang for the buck.