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Old Jun 20, 2019 | 11:09 PM
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Oil test came back high on metals need advise

My past 4 oil samples have averaged 36ppm aluminum and 39ppm iron. The last test jumped up to 90ppm aluminum and 68ppm iron. I have been sampling and changing the oil every 5,000 miles. What should I do ?? Keep driving or try to find the cause? It runs good as far as I can tell 122,000 miles.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2019 | 11:18 PM
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Did the testing lab give any advice or indication of a possible cause? How do the elevated levels compare to a “typical” motor of yours age?
 
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Old Jun 20, 2019 | 11:23 PM
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The Blackstone universal averages are 9ppm for aluminum and 29ppm for iron.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 07:37 AM
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More details will possibly help the insightful guys give you possible hints. MY, use, oil brand and weight, any problems in the past, where you live, etc. Try posting it in an oil thread. There's the most recent one right here:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...valvoline.html
 
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 08:24 AM
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Aluminum may be piston wear. Check your air filter, hopefully you are using stock filters. High metal content is wear or damage, perhaps a good time for a trade-in.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 09:07 AM
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Filtration is stock and appears to be working fine.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 09:11 AM
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That appears to be a calibration issue to me, 12.6cst at almost 6k? Call Blackstone and have them run the sample again.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 09:21 AM
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Here are my previous 4 Blackstone tests to put the last test run by ALS into perspective
 
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 09:57 AM
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Didn't realize you weren't using the same lab, I would say you need to stay with a single lab to build a reliable baseline.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 10:03 AM
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I would agree, the data is better if the lab is the same. However a 90ppm aluminum on a single test run at a reputable lab should be a big red flag. My last truck was a 06 with a 6.0 in it that died at 130,000, just trying to be proactive and figure this out. I can’t afford an upgrade to a newer superduty at the moment.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 12:12 PM
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I wouldn't trust the calibration, have ALS run the sample before you make any assumptions.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2019 | 05:04 AM
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What year vehicle and engine? Ever use fuel additives?

At a minimum, consider changing oil brand (maybe try a 15w40) and changing where you get your fuel, and see what happens next time. Never seen UOAs for a 6.7 quite like yours with the high combo of aluminum and iron. Aluminum is almost never higher than iron in a 6.7.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2019 | 12:33 PM
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It’s a 2011 6.7l, I do use fuel additives occasionally, mostly in the winter Howe’s lubricator. I buy my diesel by the tanker load and run it through my whole fleet of farm equipment. I usually use 15w40 in the summer months, I tried switching to 5w40 syn to help with wear in the winter months. I have run other oil samples of my farm equipment using the same fuel and oil as my pickup, no problems like this. I think I will run 15w40 for 3000 miles and sample it again, if still high I think I will go pickup shopping.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2019 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Spudman2005
It’s a 2011 6.7l, I do use fuel additives occasionally, mostly in the winter Howe’s lubricator. I buy my diesel by the tanker load and run it through my whole fleet of farm equipment. I usually use 15w40 in the summer months, I tried switching to 5w40 syn to help with wear in the winter months. I have run other oil samples of my farm equipment using the same fuel and oil as my pickup, no problems like this. I think I will run 15w40 for 3000 miles and sample it again, if still high I think I will go pickup shopping.
I'd stop the fuel additive too if possible. If there is aluminum or iron in the tank where you store the fuel, that may be the problem. Ford 6.7s inherently have 3-4% fuel dilution due to fuel injection on the exhaust stroke during regens, which is why metal from fuel gets into the oil in Ford 6.7s. Deleting stops the fuel dilution btw. Your other farm equipment may not have fuel dilution issues, which is why metal from the fuel may not be making it's way into the oil of those engines. Also, ignore Blackstone fuel dilution values because they dont measure it, and pretty much just make up a number supposedly based on flash which is subjective to put it mildly. Just speculating here, but engine may be aok . . .
 
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Old Jun 22, 2019 | 10:18 PM
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Are you a “severe duty” operator?

5000 is too much for my usage criteria due to stop and go nyc traffic.

oil is cheap, engines cost money.
 
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