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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 12:00 PM
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Look at my Power steering bracket and tell me what the deal is

About a year ago everyone pointed out the fact that my alternator and power steering were running off of a single belt even know there was a dual pulley able to be used. I have since changed it over to the pump being on the front and the alternator being on the back track. Well, here is the issue. The bracket I have doesn’t stick out enough to align with the trim pulley track, so I’ve been using longer bots, shims, etc... to get it to line up. Today is the day I say no more. This is never going to work long term.... what am I doing wrong with this bracket, or what bracket should I be using?


 
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 01:42 PM
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Looks to me like your missing part of the PS bracket. I'm not sure but it also looks like somebody welded an extra strut across the top trying to compensate for the missing part.

I don't know if the pencil neck pump could could be replaced by a newer style pump and serpentine belt pump. Those should be readily available off a mid 80's crown vic.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 01:54 PM
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Did you add P/S to the truck? I wonder which bracket that is. Please post the engineering numbers off it.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 02:10 PM
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I can post a pic of the P/S pump and brackets, as soon as I discover what size the engine is.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 02:16 PM
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I'm showing that bracket has the power steering belt in the back and the alternator is running off of the front. (see picture) I haven't found very many pictures of that style of bracket but the ones I have found show the belt on the back pulley grove.
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 02:17 PM
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 03:22 PM
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 05:54 PM
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When I added power steering I had to change the crank pulley to the three sleeve type.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DAV1972
When I added power steering I had to change the crank pulley to the three sleeve type.
What engine does your truck have?
 
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFFAFA
Did you add P/S to the truck? I wonder which bracket that is. Please post the engineering numbers off it.
The previous owner did. I’ll post up those number tomorrow
 
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FoPar1972
I'm showing that bracket has the power steering belt in the back and the alternator is running off of the front. (see picture) I haven't found very many pictures of that style of bracket but the ones I have found show the belt on the back pulley grove.
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I’m not opposed to putting it in the back groove, but the alternator would then have to be shimmed out
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What engine does your truck have?
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Old Feb 6, 2018 | 09:21 PM
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Responding to thread # 9 from numberdummy. I have a 302. The three groove (sleeve) crank pully should work for him because the inner groove is closer to the engine block than the two groove.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 10:26 AM
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The spacers behind the bracket are pretty critical and specific to engines and/or applications. The one that's in there looks too thick plus an extra washer. Since those are difficult to source the proper ones and we see stacks of washers a lot, I have saved all of them I ever had loose. You can do the stacks of washers but it looks hillbilly as heck. also get rid of that all thread, used at least good grade 5 bolts.
 
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Originally Posted by willowbilly3
The spacers behind the bracket are pretty critical and specific to engines and/or applications. The one that's in there looks too thick plus an extra washer. Since those are difficult to source the proper ones and we see stacks of washers a lot, I have saved all of them I ever had loose. You can do the stacks of washers but it looks hillbilly as heck. also get rid of that all thread, used at least good grade 5 bolts.
Ford had a couple different "cut to fit" spacers back in the day. I would sure expect the big box parts stores still carry something like that. Ford's were approx. 4" long.
OP, you would be far better off getting the water pump and crank pulleys off a donor vehicle. Bolts, spacers, and brackets also. Ford's alternators always took a "JB" series 15/32" wide belt. The aftermarket world uses 3/8" wide here. And P/S pumps always got a "JC" 1/2" wide belt. So your current non-P/S water pump pulley is too narrow. I think you can get the stuff off any 302 Bumpside or Dentside 69/77. As long as you get everything off the same donor. Then record what the donor vehicle was for later belt replacements.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2018 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by willowbilly3
The spacers behind the bracket are pretty critical and specific to engines and/or applications. The one that's in there looks too thick plus an extra washer. Since those are difficult to source the proper ones and we see stacks of washers a lot, I have saved all of them I ever had loose. You can do the stacks of washers but it looks hillbilly as heck. also get rid of that all thread, used at least good grade 5 bolts.
that was a grade 8 bolt that broke unfortunately. Didn’t use all thread. Also, not sure if you’re understanding where we are trying to go with this. We don’t need to bracket closer to the motor we need it further away closer to the radiator
 
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