Getting ready to flush the coolant, thoughts on other things to replace?
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From: Salem, VA
Getting ready to flush the coolant, thoughts on other things to replace?
So I just bought my rig 2 weeks ago or so and want to get the cooling system to where I trust it. I have no idea about anything in it right now and it has 330K on it so...
I have read up on the flushing threads and will again once I'm ready to move on. My questions are what else should be replaced and what is worth upgrading at the same time? I'm looking at these:
Thermostat housing:
https://www.mishimoto.com/ford-6-0l-...ing-03-07.html
Filter system:
Sinister Diesel Coolant Filtration System for a 2003-2007 Ford Powerstroke 6.0L
Coolant hose:
https://www.mishimoto.com/ford-6-0l-...kit-05-07.html
Coolant cap:
https://www.mishimoto.com/1-1-bar-fo...cap-99-15.html
I really want to "upgrade" anything possible. The housing seems a bit excessive, but I thought I would ask anyway
Thoughts?
I have read up on the flushing threads and will again once I'm ready to move on. My questions are what else should be replaced and what is worth upgrading at the same time? I'm looking at these:
Thermostat housing:
https://www.mishimoto.com/ford-6-0l-...ing-03-07.html
Filter system:
Sinister Diesel Coolant Filtration System for a 2003-2007 Ford Powerstroke 6.0L
Coolant hose:
https://www.mishimoto.com/ford-6-0l-...kit-05-07.html
Coolant cap:
https://www.mishimoto.com/1-1-bar-fo...cap-99-15.html
I really want to "upgrade" anything possible. The housing seems a bit excessive, but I thought I would ask anyway
Thoughts?
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I run the Mishimoto T stat in both my trucks and really like it. I run the 200* stat and it has yeilded me better fuel economy and closer Delta on the oil cooler too. Some people don't like them because they are worried about the heat. I find it's more stable with that set up. Get your coolant filter from XDP. I'm not a fan of Sinister products. As far as the hoses, stock is fine. Silicone hose are too much money in my opinion. The Degas bottle ,I'd stay stock with that too. 300 dollars is a bunch of money and you can't see the true level of coolant in it.
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I had an upper radiator hose leak not too long ago at 95K miles. May be worth looking at if the old one looks like its time (mine looked fine actually, so I'm not sure a visual inspection is worth much).
Do you know anything about the radiator? 330K on the original would say you've gotten your money's worth.
May be a good time for starter rebuild/replacement. I have read where it is best if you remove the starter to access the passenger side block drain.
Do you know anything about the radiator? 330K on the original would say you've gotten your money's worth.
May be a good time for starter rebuild/replacement. I have read where it is best if you remove the starter to access the passenger side block drain.
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A coolant filter is not a bad idea for an unknown truck and a coolant flush. At that mileage a chem flush of both types is probably a good thing but certainly carries oil cooler risks. Damn if you do ......,
Bill, a difference between warmer coolant before the heat exchanger and post heat exchanger oil is not an physical improvement in oil heat exchanger efficiency, it's just a change in numbers.
Bill, a difference between warmer coolant before the heat exchanger and post heat exchanger oil is not an physical improvement in oil heat exchanger efficiency, it's just a change in numbers.
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If you haven't already, use an app and record the coolant and oil temps as you drive. Then after flushing check them again.
Hopefully nothing gets worse.
Hopefully nothing gets worse.
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No, you are correct. Numbers do change. There is no denying that. I like that fact that there is less change in various temps. I don't know if that is the correct aspect of it. It maybe the fact of it having a heavier spring and it doesn't fluckuate as much I have no idea.
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Hi Apocalyse,
One thing I really have found extremely useful in being religious about all maintenance activities is to use a quick drain ball valve on your oil pan instead of the stock; They're inexpensive and make oil changes clean and fast.
Fumoto F-111
Fumoto Engine Oil Drain Valve F-111
Also, if you're not already set to learn every maintenance procedure you can, and do them on time, learn from this forum and some good YouTube sources how to do every maintenance activity you can, whether shadetree or accomplished senior mechanic.
Good Luck !
These are great trucks and the experience is better if you invest the time to learn about the 6.0
One thing I really have found extremely useful in being religious about all maintenance activities is to use a quick drain ball valve on your oil pan instead of the stock; They're inexpensive and make oil changes clean and fast.
Fumoto F-111
Fumoto Engine Oil Drain Valve F-111
Also, if you're not already set to learn every maintenance procedure you can, and do them on time, learn from this forum and some good YouTube sources how to do every maintenance activity you can, whether shadetree or accomplished senior mechanic.
Good Luck !
These are great trucks and the experience is better if you invest the time to learn about the 6.0
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One more thing....
A good fast ODBCII monitor is the ScanGauge II, you can get them pre-programmed for the 6.0L from BulletProofdiesel.com. They are compact and fit perfectly in the dash recess (for sunglasses) just lower-right of the steering wheel, but that's my 2004 F250 SD. Monitor you engine oil temp. (EOT) and your engine coolant temp. (ECT) plus two others of your choosing (you can select and change which engine parameters to monitor).
A good fast ODBCII monitor is the ScanGauge II, you can get them pre-programmed for the 6.0L from BulletProofdiesel.com. They are compact and fit perfectly in the dash recess (for sunglasses) just lower-right of the steering wheel, but that's my 2004 F250 SD. Monitor you engine oil temp. (EOT) and your engine coolant temp. (ECT) plus two others of your choosing (you can select and change which engine parameters to monitor).
Lead Driver
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I have the Dieselsite coolant filter, easy install, I also got the shutoff ball valves.
It is bit tough replacing the filter, I usually do it while swapping batteries.
Apoc,
I'd get yourself an OBD2 scangauge2 or bluetooth adaptor and an APP for your phone. Look for FICM, glow plug, Hpop/icp/ipr problems, and see what your coolant and oil temps are BEFORE changing something.
You may find new batteries are needed first.
Fuel filters? Oil change new OEM Ford filter and make sure it has a Ford cap.
Coolant drain, probably new upper/lower hose at 330k would be wise.
Diff(s) and trans fluid changes to get a good clean inspection of the fluid condition.
The scangauge has a blendmount to mount it over the rearview mirror, it is auto ON when you start, auto OFF when yiu shutdown, and always handy, imo!
Just bought a used sg2 from the FTE Marketplace, so keep your eyes open.
Congrats!
It is bit tough replacing the filter, I usually do it while swapping batteries.
Apoc,
I'd get yourself an OBD2 scangauge2 or bluetooth adaptor and an APP for your phone. Look for FICM, glow plug, Hpop/icp/ipr problems, and see what your coolant and oil temps are BEFORE changing something.
You may find new batteries are needed first.
Fuel filters? Oil change new OEM Ford filter and make sure it has a Ford cap.
Coolant drain, probably new upper/lower hose at 330k would be wise.
Diff(s) and trans fluid changes to get a good clean inspection of the fluid condition.
The scangauge has a blendmount to mount it over the rearview mirror, it is auto ON when you start, auto OFF when yiu shutdown, and always handy, imo!
Just bought a used sg2 from the FTE Marketplace, so keep your eyes open.
Congrats!
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From: Liberty, NC
Most importantly, let's get some numbers and monitor those deltas. I really like my Torque pro app to monitor everything.
Thermostat is a good inexpensive start.
Coolant filter is a plus.
The cap and hose is items that if they are not broken, don't fix it.
Fumoto valves are great if you're doing the work and I'm sure you are. Anything that can by drained, drain it so you're starting fresh.
Thermostat is a good inexpensive start.
Coolant filter is a plus.
The cap and hose is items that if they are not broken, don't fix it.
Fumoto valves are great if you're doing the work and I'm sure you are. Anything that can by drained, drain it so you're starting fresh.