Exhaust pipe and spare tire conflict
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Exhaust pipe and spare tire conflict
It looked like there was no reason that I couldn't reinstall the exhaust system in my 53 F100. Except I may have a problem now that I have a spare tire carrier that fits under the bed. I've never used it before. I mounted it in the only two holes that I found on the frame (though I think that maybe it's located too close to the bumper). Anyway, I looked at my exhaust pipe and it appears that there is a conflict between the pipe and a future spare tire. The spare tire carrier wasn't on the truck when I had the exhaust repaired 40 years ago. So I guess I have two questions: 1) about where should the center of the tire carrier be, and 2) what route should the exhaust pipe take to avoid running into the spare tire? Did it originally end at the back of the truck, or did it make a turn and end somewhere behind the rear wheel? I'll start perusing photos to see what I figure out. But any comments / input will be appreciated.
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I ran into the same problem when I tried to remount a spare under the bed with the original hardware. The problem is that most of us are running much bigger (circumference and width) tires than the old original bias plys. By the time I got it up and almost mounted, I was reminded of just how hard it is to mount a spare in that fashion. So when I noticed that the tire was hitting my exhaust, I said life is too short and threw it into the bed for long trips. Let me know if you figure it out.
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I too am interested in this as I need a new exhaust on my 54. I think the stock exhaust ran up and over the rear axle and exited out the back. I have seen pics of a full color dealer brochure showing the chassis including the exhaust but have not scanned it to share here. Can you show us pics of your spare tire hanger. I can show how mine is later.
The guys at the garage I frequent say PA law says tailpipes must outnthe side of the vehicle or go the whole way to the rear end.
BTW, I ordered a Smithy's glass pack for my Truck! Darkside here I come!
The guys at the garage I frequent say PA law says tailpipes must outnthe side of the vehicle or go the whole way to the rear end.
BTW, I ordered a Smithy's glass pack for my Truck! Darkside here I come!
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Here's a quick schematic showing how my spare tire carrier could mount using existing holes drilled in the frame. None of the existing holes are the same o.c. spacing as the hole enters in my carrier. The straight across mounting has the best bolt spacing, but the edge of the tire would practically touch the inside of the rear bumper. The diagonal mounting puts the tire in a better position, but the o.c.spacing is so poor that the swivel bolt holding the carrier is at an extreme angle. I'm concerned that the whole carrier and spare would fall off the mounting bolts.
The other issue is the routing of the exhaust. My tail pipe is currently configured to run between the rails and terminate at the back. With the spare tire mounted under the frame, that won't work. The tailpipe has to get over to the outside of the frame rail at some point after it bends over the axle. I'm thinking that routing it so it terminates behind the rear wheel might be the best option. I am interested in knowing how others have dealt with this. Does anyone actually have a "stock" exhaust setup on a truck that has this kind of spare tire carrier?
The other issue is the routing of the exhaust. My tail pipe is currently configured to run between the rails and terminate at the back. With the spare tire mounted under the frame, that won't work. The tailpipe has to get over to the outside of the frame rail at some point after it bends over the axle. I'm thinking that routing it so it terminates behind the rear wheel might be the best option. I am interested in knowing how others have dealt with this. Does anyone actually have a "stock" exhaust setup on a truck that has this kind of spare tire carrier?
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[QUOTE=truckdog62563;16361704]Here's the authority. The 1953 Ford Body Builders' Layout Book shows it.
I never heard of the 1953 Ford Body Builders' Layout Book. This is exactly what I was hoping someone would show me. Now I got a handle on both the exhaust pipe layout, and the mounting of the spare tire. Thank you. What's the story of that book? Are reproduction copies available?
I never heard of the 1953 Ford Body Builders' Layout Book. This is exactly what I was hoping someone would show me. Now I got a handle on both the exhaust pipe layout, and the mounting of the spare tire. Thank you. What's the story of that book? Are reproduction copies available?
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Here's the middle shot showing other aspects of the exhaust.
There are no reproductions available of the books. I've turned down guys wanting to do a pdf of mine fearing someone trying to profit from something I give information out of for free. I have the 1953 edition and the 1957 edition. Another member long ago also had a 1953 copy, but we haven't heard from him in a long time. A 1954 copy is on eBay now. If anybody wants a copy of the pages for their truck do me a pm and I'll mail them hard copies. The pages get hard to read when scanned and reduced in size. Stu
1954 Ford Truck Body Builder Design Specification Dimension Brochure I2935 | eBay
There are no reproductions available of the books. I've turned down guys wanting to do a pdf of mine fearing someone trying to profit from something I give information out of for free. I have the 1953 edition and the 1957 edition. Another member long ago also had a 1953 copy, but we haven't heard from him in a long time. A 1954 copy is on eBay now. If anybody wants a copy of the pages for their truck do me a pm and I'll mail them hard copies. The pages get hard to read when scanned and reduced in size. Stu
1954 Ford Truck Body Builder Design Specification Dimension Brochure I2935 | eBay
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I am about to get some exhaust work done on my 54. I would like to have the exhaust system like it was originally. Stu thanks for the copies of the builders book. I know a 6 cyl and an 8 cyl exhaust is different but they should be the same at the back half.
I bought a 22" glass pack. It arrived today. Will the length of a stock style exhaust exiting out the behind the rear wheel diminish the sound of a glass pack and negate the mellow tone and Yblock sound I want?
I bought a 22" glass pack. It arrived today. Will the length of a stock style exhaust exiting out the behind the rear wheel diminish the sound of a glass pack and negate the mellow tone and Yblock sound I want?
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The V8 exhaust follows the same path. The muffler is 22" long. If you want copies for your trucks pm me your mailing address. Don't know how it will effect the sound. Do know that in my earlier British life I had a glass pack on my Bugeye that over time got louder and louder. Was almost like a straight pipe after a while. Stu