Going from 7000lb 33ft trailer to a 2500lb 18ft trailer. Still need the Weight Distributing Hitch?
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Going from 7000lb 33ft trailer to a 2500lb 18ft trailer. Still need the Weight Distributing Hitch?
As the title says I'm getting rid of our 33' Travel trailer with a 7000lb dry weight and moving to a smaller 18ft 2500lb trailer (2016 White Water 177SE).
I currently have a BlueOx SwayPro with 1000lb bars and firestone airbags. Do I even need the WDH at this point or am I fine with just making sure everything is nice and level?
Secondly. If I don't use the WDH should I be concerned with sway with this configuration?
Thanks!
I currently have a BlueOx SwayPro with 1000lb bars and firestone airbags. Do I even need the WDH at this point or am I fine with just making sure everything is nice and level?
Secondly. If I don't use the WDH should I be concerned with sway with this configuration?
Thanks!
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I wouldn't see a need for a WD hitch on your Ex with a trailer that small, but I would still consider some form of sway control. Many people use sway control on trailers as small a pop ups.
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Cool little retro trailer there Jeremy, what color are you getting, red, blue or yellow?
That trailer shows a GVW of 3500lbs (2530 dry + 970 cargo cap.) with a listed dry tongue weight of 380, so even with that dry TW it would have more than 10% TW and it will almost certainly be higher than that in reality. Looking at those numbers and the fact that the new trailer is only 8' 6" tall (much less wind drag than the old TT) and at 18' 6" total length it should tow well without the need for a WD hitch. But like has been said adding some type of cheap but effective sway control (friction device) is never a bad idea.
Good luck with it and looking forward to seeing some pics of it behind your EX!
For those that are not familiar with these retro trailers here is a sample.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...FUSXHgodJocK3Q
That trailer shows a GVW of 3500lbs (2530 dry + 970 cargo cap.) with a listed dry tongue weight of 380, so even with that dry TW it would have more than 10% TW and it will almost certainly be higher than that in reality. Looking at those numbers and the fact that the new trailer is only 8' 6" tall (much less wind drag than the old TT) and at 18' 6" total length it should tow well without the need for a WD hitch. But like has been said adding some type of cheap but effective sway control (friction device) is never a bad idea.
Good luck with it and looking forward to seeing some pics of it behind your EX!
For those that are not familiar with these retro trailers here is a sample.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...FUSXHgodJocK3Q
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OK I can see 3500 total for that trailer on the GVWR side. I'd have to guess you would be pretty close to that once you load your gear and food for a trip.
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Ditto on keeping at least the sway control. Years ago my wife convinced me we needed to downsize so we traded in our Coachmen 25" TT for a Coleman Bayside pop-up. Our tow vehicle was a '00 Mark III E-150 conversion van. Salesman told us I wouldn't need the wd hitch or sway bar any longer. First trip with the pop-up it started swaying worse than the TT ever had. Installed the friction control sway bar from the old set up and the sway was gone
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Cool little retro trailer there Jeremy, what color are you getting, red, blue or yellow?
That trailer shows a GVW of 3500lbs (2530 dry + 970 cargo cap.) with a listed dry tongue weight of 380, so even with that dry TW it would have more than 10% TW and it will almost certainly be higher than that in reality. Looking at those numbers and the fact that the new trailer is only 8' 6" tall (much less wind drag than the old TT) and at 18' 6" total length it should tow well without the need for a WD hitch. But like has been said adding some type of cheap but effective sway control (friction device) is never a bad idea.
Good luck with it and looking forward to seeing some pics of it behind your EX!
For those that are not familiar with these retro trailers here is a sample.
Google Image Result for http://d17qgzvii7d4wm.cloudfront.net/s3/img.rv/3746/i/1717013/o/1_3746_1717013_33671963.jpg%3Bmaxwidth%3D1024%3Bma xheight%3D1024%3Bmode%3Dcrop
That trailer shows a GVW of 3500lbs (2530 dry + 970 cargo cap.) with a listed dry tongue weight of 380, so even with that dry TW it would have more than 10% TW and it will almost certainly be higher than that in reality. Looking at those numbers and the fact that the new trailer is only 8' 6" tall (much less wind drag than the old TT) and at 18' 6" total length it should tow well without the need for a WD hitch. But like has been said adding some type of cheap but effective sway control (friction device) is never a bad idea.
Good luck with it and looking forward to seeing some pics of it behind your EX!
For those that are not familiar with these retro trailers here is a sample.
Google Image Result for http://d17qgzvii7d4wm.cloudfront.net/s3/img.rv/3746/i/1717013/o/1_3746_1717013_33671963.jpg%3Bmaxwidth%3D1024%3Bma xheight%3D1024%3Bmode%3Dcrop
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You'll probably end up with a 450lb tongue weight. No need for a WD hitch. A little air in the bags and you'll be set. And as long as the tongue weight is kept at 12% I don't even see a need for a sway control.
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With our son (and all of his buddies that travel with us) shipping off to college in a month my wife and I have kicked around the idea of picking up a small camper for quick short getaways when it's just us two for a few days vs the big TT for longer trips or with the full crew. I'd love to find a good deal on a Casita, Boler or similar fiberglass egg camper, one of the 16' or 17' models would be great for our plans.
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A WDH would probably turn that lightweight trailer tongue into a pretzel. Sway control maybe, give it a try with and without.
Nice trailer, I wish I could get the wife to downsize...lol.
Good Luck!
Nice trailer, I wish I could get the wife to downsize...lol.
Good Luck!
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We tow a Coleman Utah that's in the same size and weight range. Sometimes I forget it's back there. Especially after upgrading shocks and adding the Helwig. Your rig will easily tow the setup. Cool retro look to that TT.
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Sounds like I need to pull the trigger and put a hellwig on the rear of my rig. Been planning on doing it sometime. Thankfully I can probably sell my BlueOx and offset the cost.
Edit: Fortunately I found a video on youtube by some idiot that I can use to help me install it.
Edit: Fortunately I found a video on youtube by some idiot that I can use to help me install it.
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