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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Ton in the bed

I just unloaded a 1 ton pallet of wood pellets off my truck for the 3rd time this winter and out of curiosity I measured the hitch height before and after. Trucks a F350 SRW CC Long box and the difference was exactly 3" between loaded and unloaded. Obviously nothing too important here!Just a FYI.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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Yep been doing the same for yrs except i do five tons a season.. This is first yr I had bags installed in back of truck.I aired em up to 60 psi and brought it back to stock height.?Stopped any bouncing I had with the pellets in the back... Not the reason I got the bags but they def made a diff in ride comfort.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 09:58 PM
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Wow that seems like a lot for just 2000 lbs. The pin weight on my fifth wheel is over 3000 lbs and it didn't put my 350 below level before I added air bags which would probably be around 2.5". I guess it is possible that if you had the pallet all the way against the tailgate that the 2000 lbs was leveraging the suspension more than if the load were centered over the axle.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 10:11 PM
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I routinely haul between a ton and a ton and a quarter of quikrete. I get a pretty good squat but never measured it.

Matt is definitely on the money in regards to where the load is centered. huge difference.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 06:08 AM
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The pallet was about a foot from the tailgate so not all the way back but not centered over axle either. This truck definitely squats more than my 05 did. On a side note I might be hauling more pellets by next winter. I currently just heat my 32' x 32' finished workshop area of my pole barn but if propane doesn't come down a lot then I may be adding a Pellet stove in the house. I will only have $600 into heating the barn from fall to spring, with me opening the overhead door 2-4 times a day, and I just payed $400 for 100 gallons of propane that will only last roughly 2 weeks!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 07:31 AM
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I just payed $400 for 100 gallons of propane that will only last roughly 2 weeks!
OUCH! I have been kicking around the idea of a pellet stove, but I figure it would take me 20 years to recoup the cost of the stove. We just have a heat pump now and the worst electric bill so far has been $423. I can't keep the house 70+ degrees all the time, but the electric has been pretty efficient.

The 2011+ trucks definitely squat more than the earlier Superduties. I guess I should clarify that my 2011 squats more under lighter loads than the 2006 did, but only to a certain extent. I would say that the first 1500-1800 lbs make it squat worse, but after it hits the helper spring things even out and it seems to sit about the same overall as the 2006 did.

For my use with the big fifth wheel and occasional gooseneck towing, the air bags were a no brainer. They really aren't that expensive and offer me the ultimate control of the ride and ride height.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 08:55 AM
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... and I just payed $400 for 100 gallons of propane that will only last roughly 2 weeks!
Not to get off topic too much, but I just have to chime in here. I wish I could make my propane last that long! I go through 125 to 140 gallons per week! Last fill-up here was at $4.62/gallon + tax. I'll be looking into geothermal this year.

With a 2820 lb. 30L 12 cylinder Diesel engine block in the back, my truck squats down to just about level. But the load is distributed pretty evenly, maybe even biased a little bit to the front. Those cylinder blocks fill the length of the bed to within 5" of the tailgate.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 09:16 AM
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Man, you guys are either heating mansions or you need to invest in some insulation! My house is only about 1900sf and our temperatures were 8-10 at night and 20-25 during the day on average last month. Maybe my wife is right......I must be freezing her to death! LOL
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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We live in a historic home. It's insulated as well as it can be.

Are you on propane Deere? The thing to keep in mind is that at current propane prices, $55 worth of propane (11.26 gallons) provides the same amount of heat (1.03 million BTUH) as $9 worth of natural gas (1000 CF). So at this the coldest time of the year, heat for my home via natural gas would be $432, but instead, with propane it's $2651!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 09:50 AM
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That's what I'm saying. Even $432 for natural gas is a lot of money. My total electric bill which includes all of my heating costs was $423. I realize that we live in different climates, but with all the polar vortex action lately, I don't think our average temps were all that different.

People bag on heat pumps all the time, but I don't know anybody with any type of petroleum based heat that can heat their home any cheaper than my poor heat pump does. My wife complains, but we keep the house 68*F. I'm really not willing to pay hundreds of dollars more per month just so I can walk around in a t-shirt and shorts.

Sorry for the hijack. At least our trucks can haul 1.5-2 tons easily and still not cost as much to feed as our houses!
 
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Old Feb 22, 2014 | 12:07 PM
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Man, you guys are either heating mansions or you need to invest in some insulation! My house is only about 1900sf and our temperatures were 8-10 at night and 20-25 during the day on average last month. Maybe my wife is right......I must be freezing her to death! LOL
I am heating around 3000 sq. Ft including finished walk out basement. This winter has been brutal. House was built in 2005 and is very well insulated but -10 at night with daytime highs of 10 have been the norm this winter. Hopefully with temps getting into the 20's during the day we can stretch the propane a little further.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Romeo Scorpion
We live in a historic home. It's insulated as well as it can be.

Are you on propane Deere? The thing to keep in mind is that at current propane prices, $55 worth of propane (11.26 gallons) provides the same amount of heat (1.03 million BTUH) as $9 worth of natural gas (1000 CF). So at this the coldest time of the year, heat for my home via natural gas would be $432, but instead, with propane it's $2651!
That's pretty insane, but we're experiencing the same thing. 1 month of propane here at our acreage cost me $860. Our house is only 1000sqft, not heating any outbuildings. I put a small wood stove in, now the propane heats about 4-6 hours a day unless we're away. I'm looking into wood/electric combination furnaces now. Natural gas is a mile away, would cost me 25g to bring in.

Nicely off topic... These trucks can haul a lot of heat
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 03:16 PM
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We had oil, installed a new heat pump last summer with an expected 3 year pay back. Oil would average about $2,400 per year ($200/ month). Our electric bill last month was close to $400. We keep our house at 65*. The house is insulated in the attic however half the house is brick with 15" walls (built in 1897). We also have a pellet stove but we didn't run it this winter. Hopefully we have one more month of heating and then we can turn it off until July when air conditioning is needed.

When we purchased corn or wood pellets I always used a trailer to transport as the F150 doesn't haul one ton and the diesel has a hard tonneu cover on it.
 
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