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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Can I have 5er hitch installed

I have a 2011 Super Duty 350 swb which did not come with a 5th wheel hitch prep package installed when I bought it off the lot (new). Can I have the prep package installed now without it looking all hacked up in the bed of the truck?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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Reese, who also makes the factory Ford 5th setup, makes an underbed kit for your truck. Fifth Wheels - Reese
How good and neat the installation depends on who puts it in.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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I suppose that depends on who does the install.

Here is a link to e-trailer with the Reese Elite series prep package. It is the same one FORD uses at the Factory.


Reese Elite Series Under-Bed Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Ford Super Duty - 25,000 lbs

Part #RP30138-26

Reese Elite Series Under-Bed Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Ford Super Duty - 25,000 lbs Reese Gooseneck RP30138-26


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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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That is an excellent question. I would think it would be a bed off install but thats only a guess. The rails mount to the frame, and they would drill five holes in the bed. One for the goose and four for the fiver hitch. Come to think of it the corrogated bed is flat where the mounting holes are and I don't know if the non prep beds are. Hmmmm...
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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To answer your question - Yes you can install the "prep package" after the fact. As others have pointed out, the Reese system is the same.

That having been said, this is the most expensive rigid hitch you can get - both the in-bed components and the pin box. If you got it from the factory I believe it wasn't much more than about $3-400 as an option.

What you might look in to is the B&W Turnover system. It is a goose neck as a base kit but they make a pin box that uses the same hole where the ball goes. The pin box sits on the truck bed and is anchored in place with the part that goes down in to the hole. This Turnover system is the route I'll go.

One drawback to the Turnover system - they don't make a slider. Depending on the 5th wheel you will be towing a slider may not even be needed.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 08:40 PM
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I'm in the same boat as you, wanted to get that factory hitch option, but I bought my truck off the lot as well. For me, I'm probably going with the B&W gooseneck and fiver hitch.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 08:53 PM
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If I remember correctly, the facatory package was only with long box trucks, and not short box.

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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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I have a 2011 F350 CC SB truck. I use the B&W Companion hitch. Great hitch from a great company. It is one of the very few products that when opinions are asked for about the B&W setup, not one owner complains. In the many times the B&W question has come up on the fifth wheel forum at RVnet, I have never seen one comment that was not positive.

I have towed my Heartland Big Horn over 10,000 miles with this setup. I have never needed a slider.

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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fixdent
If I remember correctly, the facatory package was only with long box trucks, and not short box.

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This was true when the factory pkg. was first introduced. It is available now. In fact, I'm 4-6 weeks from breaking mine in.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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I got a B&W on Rick's recommendation and have really enjoyed it. It's easy to put in and take out of the bed with one person. It has workd flawlessly.

Fifth wheel B&W Companion Hitch Install on a 2011 Ford Super Duty F350 6.7L diesel - YouTube
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Toyhauler Tug
That is an excellent question. I would think it would be a bed off install but thats only a guess. The rails mount to the frame, and they would drill five holes in the bed. One for the goose and four for the fiver hitch. Come to think of it the corrogated bed is flat where the mounting holes are and I don't know if the non prep beds are. Hmmmm...
They are. I noticed a round flat portion of my bed right above the axle.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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To answer your question - Yes you can install the "prep package" after the fact. As others have pointed out, the Reese system is the same.

That having been said, this is the most expensive rigid hitch you can get - both the in-bed components and the pin box. If you got it from the factory I believe it wasn't much more than about $3-400 as an option.

What you might look in to is the B&W Turnover system. It is a goose neck as a base kit but they make a pin box that uses the same hole where the ball goes. The pin box sits on the truck bed and is anchored in place with the part that goes down in to the hole. This Turnover system is the route I'll go.

One drawback to the Turnover system - they don't make a slider. Depending on the 5th wheel you will be towing a slider may not even be needed.
How does one know in this situation if they need a slider or gooseneck? I do not tow anything yet that requires this much support. I know the answer partially lies with knowing what type of fiver you will tow. I wonder if there are 5th wheel devices that have both configurations. I am also curious what is most commonly used.

These questions are in part due to some research I've done on tow ball hitches. I have learned that most ball prep are 2" or larger but one also needs to be aware of the height of the trailer you are towing hence the adjustable height and multiple ball options. Just trying to get educated.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
I got a B&W on Rick's recommendation and have really enjoyed it. It's easy to put in and take out of the bed with one person. It has workd flawlessly.

Fifth wheel B&W Companion Hitch Install on a 2011 Ford Super Duty F350 6.7L diesel - YouTube
Ditto on the B&W Hitch
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fontana
How does one know in this situation if they need a slider or gooseneck? I do not tow anything yet that requires this much support. I know the answer partially lies with knowing what type of fiver you will tow. I wonder if there are 5th wheel devices that have both configurations. I am also curious what is most commonly used.

These questions are in part due to some research I've done on tow ball hitches. I have learned that most ball prep are 2" or larger but one also needs to be aware of the height of the trailer you are towing hence the adjustable height and multiple ball options. Just trying to get educated.
Hopefully, this will not just get more confusing. You appear to be in the market for a fifth wheel trailer. Are you also contemplating a goose neck trailer as well. If that is your mission, the B&W Turnover Ball/ Companion 5th Wheel set up is what you want to buy. If you watch Epic's excellent video on the B&W you will see how the hitch combination does each job with equal aplomb.

The slider issue with a SB truck and a Companion Fifth Wheel will be dependent on the front cap configuration of the new fifth wheel camper. Many of the later models of most manufacturers have scalloped front corners that provide enough clearance for near 90 degree turns when backing into a campsite. I have yet to arrive at a campground that I have not been able to get my rig into the assigned campsite. If I did find this to be a problem, I would ask for a different site...so far...so good

I hope this helps

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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Fontana
How does one know in this situation if they need a slider or gooseneck? I do not tow anything yet that requires this much support. I know the answer partially lies with knowing what type of fiver you will tow. I wonder if there are 5th wheel devices that have both configurations. I am also curious what is most commonly used.

Maybe you seek this option. Convert-A-Ball Cushioned 5th wheel to goose neck adapter. See link...


Convert-A-Ball Cushioned 5th-Wheel-to-Gooseneck Adapter - 12" to 16" Tall - 20,000 lbs Convert-A-Ball Trailer Coupler CAB-C5G


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Fifth Wheel-to-Gooseneck Trailer Coupler Review - etrailer.com - YouTube



Hope this helps...

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