Notices

okay guys completed my swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 03:44 PM
  #1  
JoeDaf's Avatar
JoeDaf
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
okay guys completed my swap

Completed my swap this weekend put a offy dp with efi exhaust with a eldabrock 600. Having an issue it seems like when I kick in the 4 barrel in forth gear it doesn't seem to have a lot of pull... second and third I'm pulling like no other its a whole new truck. But in fourth gear it doesn't have great pull. I'm tacking about 2 grand at 55 but when I kick it just doesn't have the umph. Does anyone have an idea or adjustments or things I should add. Overall I am very satisfied with the swap. Big sixs rock.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 03:56 PM
  #2  
BaronVonAutomatc's Avatar
BaronVonAutomatc
Postmaster
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,949
Likes: 6
From: Earth
Could be a lot of things. Recurving the distributor might help. Stiffer step up springs might help. Try driving with a vacuum gauge attached and see what kind of readings you're getting in different gears at different RPM. Checking the AFR with a wideband O2 sensor would give you some good info too.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:04 PM
  #3  
1983F1503004x4's Avatar
1983F1503004x4
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,916
Likes: 4
Is the Edelbrock 600 cfm 4v a mechanical or vacuum secondary carburetor?

If it's a mechanical secondary, you might just need to adjust the secondaries.

I'd also recommend a vacuum gauge to check your fuel mixture for the primaries and secondaries.

The other thing is regarding the DP intake.

The primaries BOTH have to be parallel with the valve cover, and the secondaries have to both be towards the firewall, like this:

S
E --> cyl #6 V
C P A
O R --> cyl#5 L
N I V
D M --> Cyl #4 E
A A
R R --> Cyl #3 Cover
I I
E E --> Cyl #2
S S
--> Cyl #1

I'd be willing to bet that that's your issue. The main reason I think that the carburetor is mounted wrong is because you say that this occurs at 2000 rpm. That tells me that when your getting on the throttle, that the secondaries aren't open yet and when they do open, the motor isn't breathing right.

If your intake manifold was a C-series, it wouldn't matter which way the carburetor is mounted because it's just an "open plenum" intake. That Dual-Plane intake has little dividing walls all in the runners.

At least, this is the information that I've "heard" from others on here regarding the DP intake.

On a side note, how is your throttle response now? The 300 should really grab you by your britches now that the motor can breath like 1000% (not a real numerical figure fwiw) better.


EDIT: I see Baron has posted. I agree 100%, the distributor might need to be re-curved because the motor doesn't have the total timing necessary to take advantage of the new setup.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:12 PM
  #4  
JoeDaf's Avatar
JoeDaf
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
I have adjusted the timing a few times doesn't seem to make much of a difference. As far as the carb goes I have the secondaries on the upper side and primaries on the lower side. I'm thinking maybe I might need to widen my gap on my spark pulgs or thicker wires to carry my upgraded coil power what do you think?
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:34 PM
  #5  
BaronVonAutomatc's Avatar
BaronVonAutomatc
Postmaster
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,949
Likes: 6
From: Earth
Originally Posted by JoeDaf
As far as the carb goes I have the secondaries on the upper side and primaries on the lower side.
Upper side and lower side? The primaries should be on the engine side and secondaries on the fender side, although I don't think you could even mount the carb if it was off 90 degrees.

Recurving affects how soon and how much advance there is off idle. You need either a dial-back timing light or someone with a distributor machine to see how the spark curve is advancing at different rpm. It should start to advance just off idle and reach maximum mechanical advance ~3,000-3,500 rpm.

After I swapped on my C and Edelbrock the truck runs best at ~16 degrees BTDC static timing with the vacuum advance can hooked to manifold vacuum.

Edelbrocks are pretty forgiving out of the box. Get a set of step up springs (~$5) and swap to the stiffest ones and see if that helps before you start dicking with the jets or rods.
 
Reply
Old Nov 20, 2011 | 07:12 PM
  #6  
JoeDaf's Avatar
JoeDaf
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
primaries

Yes i have it setup like that the Dp has the split runners im sure you know. my bad should have clarified that when i said that. my bad but on a lighter note 1st through 3 is awesome.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
scott1973
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
20
Apr 30, 2017 11:37 PM
BigCountry1978
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
18
Jan 11, 2016 11:06 AM
300/6 Freak
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
11
May 8, 2012 11:53 PM
CaptnNoodld
Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L / 300
5
Feb 12, 2012 02:56 PM
MRStace84
Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L / 300
3
Dec 9, 2003 04:14 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:00 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 10:59:05


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE