Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

Flathead Temp. Sending Units????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 9, 2010 | 10:30 PM
  #1  
51phil's Avatar
51phil
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Mohnton, PA
Flathead Temp. Sending Units????

After putting a new double post send unit in my 51 flatty my temp gauged worked fine. but once I connected the passenger side single post to it the gauge no longer works. So I disconnected it from the double post unit leaving it (the double post unit) hooked up to the gauge, the gauge still won't work. My questions are...
--- Would a bad single post unit cause the double post unit to go bad?
---- Are the both really needed?
Thanks
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2010 | 11:31 PM
  #2  
Julies Cool F1's Avatar
Julies Cool F1
Post Fiend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,641
Likes: 21
From: Poway, Ca.
No and yes.

Remember the single post unit completes the ground for the temp gauge circuit. So there has to be continuety from the gauge to the single post unit.

The double post unit is a simple overheat sensor - a switch - it's either on or off. Inside a contact switch is closed allowing power to flow out of it over to the single post sender.

If the engine boiled, the switch would open - breaking the electrical circuit, and not allowing the power to reach ground via the single post unit.

Without a ground the needle on the gauge, basically, turns off, and returns to it's default position on "H."

So, power runs from the ignition switch "ACC" post, to the gauge, out of the gauge to the double post sender; then [if the temp isn't boiling and the switch inside it is closed] the power then flows out of the double sender and over to the single sender. The single post sender varies resistance with changing temps (causing the different gauge needle positions), then the varied power flows to ground.

Get a meter and check for continuety between the two posts of the double post sender. If you have continuety there then the two post sender is ok.

Take the wire coming from the gauge that attaches to the double post sender and attach it to the single post sender with a jumper wire. Start up the truck. If the gauge works the single sender is good - if not, it is bad.

Just out of curiosity, why did you change it?
 
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2010 | 09:45 AM
  #3  
ALBUQ F-1's Avatar
ALBUQ F-1
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 27,299
Likes: 1,059
From: NM
Not sure if you've seen this before, it explains the function of the system. It isn't like anything on modern trucks.
 
Attached Images   
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2010 | 09:54 AM
  #4  
petey shoes's Avatar
petey shoes
Posting Guru
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,272
Likes: 3
keep in mind that flatties are, for the sake of conservation, two four cyl. units. two independent water pumps. with only one send unit, you would not know if other half of engine was hot until too late. i use two totally independent send units and gauges. i KNOW how hot both banks of cyl,s are. just my 2cents.
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 10:55 PM
  #5  
51phil's Avatar
51phil
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Mohnton, PA
Thanks for the input. I am finding it hard to locate a new single post unit that is not a repro. I have been told that the newer ones are not very consistent. I have 2 (one for a spare) new double post on their way now.
 
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2010 | 11:17 PM
  #6  
jmadsen's Avatar
jmadsen
Logistics Pro
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Liked
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,364
Likes: 84
From: Utah
SO Julie, Can you re-Explain that for use with 12 Volts neg ground?

Just Kidding

I never knew all this info, great explanation and the diagrams by Ross help too.


Cheers

Josh
 
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2010 | 12:57 AM
  #7  
Julies Cool F1's Avatar
Julies Cool F1
Post Fiend
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,641
Likes: 21
From: Poway, Ca.
Originally Posted by jmadsen
SO Julie, Can you re-Explain that for use with 12 Volts neg ground?

Just Kidding


Cheers

Josh
Sure, it's exactly the same! You just have to reduce the voltage from 12 to 6 volts before it goes into the gauge (smart Alec! )
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
arrowheadfred
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
12
Jul 1, 2011 12:41 AM
thestateofchase
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
4
Dec 3, 2010 08:27 AM
eriklane
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Nov 4, 2010 06:14 AM
comet
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
11
Oct 13, 2008 10:29 AM
hungagain
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
Jan 8, 2005 09:32 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:49 PM.

story-0
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE