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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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Oil in Coolant :(

I am sure this has been covered but for some reason the search feature will not work for me.. The verification code never takes.

Anyways I got a 97 expy 5.4L. I was doing my regular checking of fluids today and noticed what seems to be oil in the over flow Resv. It looks dark and I smell what I think is oil and coolant mixed. I stuck a white rag in there and it did come out a little brown. Couldnt have been like this long becuase I checked a few weeks ago and it was bright green. I am suspecting a leaking Head Gasket? I Def cant afford to replace that right now if thats what it is.. cant afford any major repairs right now...... How can I tell if it is the Head gasket? Or could be a cracked Cyl head. She still runs good and drives good with High oil pressure and never over heats. And she is not leaking anything on the driveway. If it is the head Gasket is there a cheaper repair like a sealant?

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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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I am not sure but the engine oil cooler may be in the radiator. That is a possible source for oil in the coolant.

If it is the headgasket, or a cracked head, there is no easy fix. The head must come off.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Greenie
I am not sure but the engine oil cooler may be in the radiator. That is a possible source for oil in the coolant.

If it is the headgasket, or a cracked head, there is no easy fix. The head must come off.

Ohh ok I have not clue where to start looking... I had a friend that had a leaking head gasket and he used some stuff called blue devil and if fixed his problem and still running strong, But his is a chevy.. That is why I asked if there were any easy fixes for the expy.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Greenie
I am not sure but the engine oil cooler may be in the radiator. That is a possible source for oil in the coolant.

If it is the headgasket, or a cracked head, there is no easy fix. The head must come off.
The cooler in the radiator is for the transmission fluid, not the engine oil. It's possible this is what you're seeing.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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The cooler in the radiator is for the transmission fluid, not the engine oil. It's possible this is what you're seeing.

Yeah that is possible also, I know that The trans cooler goes in to the rad. How do I check for possible issues it could be?

You guys ever tried Blue Devil? http://www.autobarn.net/blue-devil-e...ProductReviews
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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Yeah that is possible also, I know that The trans cooler goes in to the rad. How do I check for possible issues it could be?

You guys ever tried Blue Devil? Blue Devil Engine and Cooling Sealant (32 oz.) - BLU38386
You could have a pressure test done on your radiator.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by marks500
I am sure this has been covered but for some reason the search feature will not work for me.. The verification code never takes.
FYI, If you're signed into this site when you do your searches, then there are no verification codes to be filled in.

Could it be tranny fluid? Sometimes the tranny cooler built into the radiator can spring a leak. This will bleed tranny fluid into the cooling system. It's the lesser of two evils since a new radiator is less expensive than pulling the heads off.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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Be careful how and what you test. If any coolant gets into the trans it will cause the clutches to debond as they are applied with a water soluble bonding agent. That would require a trans rebuild.
I suspect the oil is getting into the coolant due to a bad gasket at the oil filter adaptor on the block. This happens fairly often and the gasket is about $15.00 or so.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by marks500
I am sure this has been covered but for some reason the search feature will not work for me.. The verification code never takes.

Anyways I got a 97 expy 5.4L. I was doing my regular checking of fluids today and noticed what seems to be oil in the over flow Resv. It looks dark and I smell what I think is oil and coolant mixed. I stuck a white rag in there and it did come out a little brown. Couldnt have been like this long becuase I checked a few weeks ago and it was bright green. I am suspecting a leaking Head Gasket? I Def cant afford to replace that right now if thats what it is.. cant afford any major repairs right now...... How can I tell if it is the Head gasket? Or could be a cracked Cyl head. She still runs good and drives good with High oil pressure and never over heats. And she is not leaking anything on the driveway. If it is the head Gasket is there a cheaper repair like a sealant?

Thanks Guys!
Take it to a shop that has an emissions tester, they can sniff for exhaust gasses in the radiator. The other indicator would be air bubbles in the radiator.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by marks500
Yeah that is possible also, I know that The trans cooler goes in to the rad. How do I check for possible issues it could be?

You guys ever tried Blue Devil? Blue Devil Engine and Cooling Sealant (32 oz.) - BLU38386
If the trans cooler was bad you'd be getting coolant in the trans itself and the fluid would look like pink moose or whatever you prefer to call it, milky pink.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Moto Mel
I suspect the oil is getting into the coolant due to a bad gasket at the oil filter adaptor on the block. This happens fairly often and the gasket is about $15.00 or so.
Another good possibility. Sorry Mel, didn't catch your post and you're most likely on the money.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyByNight
If the trans cooler was bad you'd be getting coolant in the trans itself and the fluid would look like pink moose or whatever you prefer to call it, milky pink.
Or you could call it a Strawberry Frappe'
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 01:46 PM
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I once had a bad intake manifold gasket go bad that allowed coolant into the oil system.
Kept loosing coolant with no trace of leaks to the ground.
Finally pulled a valve cover and found a 'white moose' on the underside of the covers.
Replaced the intake gasket and all was fine.
Saw where the gasket had broken down around the coolant passages.
That should be an easier fix than pulling the heads.

Good luck,
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Moto Mel
Be careful how and what you test. If any coolant gets into the trans it will cause the clutches to debond as they are applied with a water soluble bonding agent. That would require a trans rebuild.
I suspect the oil is getting into the coolant due to a bad gasket at the oil filter adaptor on the block. This happens fairly often and the gasket is about $15.00 or so.
Is this something I can see by looking at it or I would have to take it off?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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Thanks Guys for all the info. Seems like it could be a number of things. So many things to Check....I checked my Oil and it looks clean. So it seems like oil getting in the coolant but no coolant in the Oil if that makes sense. I havent Had much time to really sit down and inspect everything with work and all. In the mean time it is not being drivin until I find out the problem. Once the weekend gets here I will do some checking around.

One other thing, On these things is there a Cap on the Radiator to check it?? I dont see one unless I am blind. Or is the Rad. overfill resivor the only way to check fluid on this thing?
 
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