Favorite fuel injector cleaner?
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#32
I'll buy the snake oil that BMW officially sells me for my BMW (Techron) as being a cut above:
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George
http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/...bmwtechron.jpg
George
Its an effective product when used daily (just pump Chevron gas) but it wont do crap for your fuel system for those that use it occasionally as a maintenance practice.
Buy and use whatever you want if it makes you feel better. Your vehicle wont know the difference.
#33
Find some definitive non-biased information that any of it is effective anymore than the detergent product already formulated in consumer level gasoline. There isn't any. Matter of fact Chevron has had their hand slapped a few times in court because of some of the claims they've made for their product.
Its an effective product when used daily (just pump Chevron gas) but it wont do crap for your fuel system for those that use it occasionally as a maintenance practice.
Buy and use whatever you want if it makes you feel better. Your vehicle wont know the difference.
Its an effective product when used daily (just pump Chevron gas) but it wont do crap for your fuel system for those that use it occasionally as a maintenance practice.
Buy and use whatever you want if it makes you feel better. Your vehicle wont know the difference.
I've owned cars for over 40 years and am not a user of any additives at this point other than Techron. (In my early years of driving junk cars, I bought and tried more additives than I care to admit and will note that Gumout used to work magic for me on many carbureted cars but those days are long gone.)
Again, no offense, but I'll trust BMW's recommendation over yours for now. We've got a couple bimmers in the family (I've had my 1991 318is since 1994 and my son has had a couple 318ti's) and they know how to build cars very well.
You haven't exactly supplied us with definitive evidence of any kind that Techron does *not* work as an occasional additive especially when top tier gasoline is not being used as a regular diet.
George
ps I generally save anywhere between $2 and $6 per fillup by buying gas at Costco compared to the local Shell stations, so it is cost-effective to buy a couple bottles per year of Techron for each car. If my gasoline was free, I'd use Shell premium (which is claimed to have more additives than their regular gas) and go totally additive-free. But that would add yet another $2-6 per fillup...the big dollars are for the 35 gallon tank in my E150...
#35
Again, no offense, but I'll trust BMW's recommendation over yours for now. We've got a couple bimmers in the family (I've had my 1991 318is since 1994 and my son has had a couple 318ti's) and they know how to build cars very well.
You haven't exactly supplied us with definitive evidence of any kind that Techron does *not* work as an occasional additive especially when top tier gasoline is not being used as a regular diet.
If Chevron formulated gasoline isn't available in your area then I guess your doing the next best thing.
#36
George.
I know it's OT, but I LOVE the 91 318IS. What a great little car. I've owned a few e30s and have been looking at a 318is(91)for a while now. They are hard to find in good shape. My current daily drive is an 87 Porsche 924S, but my wife is expecting and I've been looking for a nice sedan. The early 90s Benz e320, and the 91 318 are strong choices right now, but the BMW doesn't have the safety systems I'd like to see, but it is such a neat little car.
Anyway, she will be driving the FX4 with our new baby until I make up my mind because of the awesome safety ratings it has.
Back to the regularly scheduled snake oil discussion.
I know it's OT, but I LOVE the 91 318IS. What a great little car. I've owned a few e30s and have been looking at a 318is(91)for a while now. They are hard to find in good shape. My current daily drive is an 87 Porsche 924S, but my wife is expecting and I've been looking for a nice sedan. The early 90s Benz e320, and the 91 318 are strong choices right now, but the BMW doesn't have the safety systems I'd like to see, but it is such a neat little car.
Anyway, she will be driving the FX4 with our new baby until I make up my mind because of the awesome safety ratings it has.
Back to the regularly scheduled snake oil discussion.
#37
George.
I know it's OT, but I LOVE the 91 318IS. What a great little car. I've owned a few e30s and have been looking at a 318is(91)for a while now. They are hard to find in good shape. My current daily drive is an 87 Porsche 924S, but my wife is expecting and I've been looking for a nice sedan. The early 90s Benz e320, and the 91 318 are strong choices right now, but the BMW doesn't have the safety systems I'd like to see, but it is such a neat little car.
Anyway, she will be driving the FX4 with our new baby until I make up my mind because of the awesome safety ratings it has.
Back to the regularly scheduled snake oil discussion.
I know it's OT, but I LOVE the 91 318IS. What a great little car. I've owned a few e30s and have been looking at a 318is(91)for a while now. They are hard to find in good shape. My current daily drive is an 87 Porsche 924S, but my wife is expecting and I've been looking for a nice sedan. The early 90s Benz e320, and the 91 318 are strong choices right now, but the BMW doesn't have the safety systems I'd like to see, but it is such a neat little car.
Anyway, she will be driving the FX4 with our new baby until I make up my mind because of the awesome safety ratings it has.
Back to the regularly scheduled snake oil discussion.
I understand about the safety....only 1 airbag in the 318is. But what a nice sedan. First bimmer I drove, back in 1970 or so, was a '67 1600 (like the 2002 with a smaller engine) and I love the old bimmers with the big greenhouses. Mine is the last of this generation but with the new M42 twincam motor, which you know. Keeping mine forever....I'd consider being buried in it but would rather see my son get it when I'm done...taught him to drive a stick in it.
Sorry everyone else about the thread drift,
George
#38
The M42 is such a nice little motor. Not terribly powerful, but very flexible and the e30 chassis feels a bit more balanced with the 4-banger up front. They can be driven quickly. the e30s I've owned all have the sport seats(which is a must)and is the only car that fits me like a glove other than the Porsche 911s I've also owned.
#39
Your first post in a post asking about fuel injector cleaners and you quote
Don't YOU think thats a little odd? If you are not a troll or spammer I apologize but you have to understand there is more of that than we care to see here. If you are legit, may I be the first to welcome you and accept my apology please.
Quote:
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I usually use Lucas Oil, but how do you put it in there without making a freakin mess?
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I liked the picture of that car. Thanks.
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I usually use Lucas Oil, but how do you put it in there without making a freakin mess?
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#40
Your first post in a post asking about fuel injector cleaners and you quote
Don't YOU think thats a little odd? If you are not a troll or spammer I apologize but you have to understand there is more of that than we care to see here. If you are legit, may I be the first to welcome you and accept my apology please.
Don't YOU think thats a little odd? If you are not a troll or spammer I apologize but you have to understand there is more of that than we care to see here. If you are legit, may I be the first to welcome you and accept my apology please.
What's wrong with him saying he uses Lucas Oil Injector Cleaner?
Clearly I'm missing something.
#41
#42
Umm.. You Guy's do know that Fuel Additives are a multi million dollar SCAM, Right?
Every Refinery in the Country adds an additive package to the fuel You buy, Federally mandated. Some are slightly different than others, but there's surprisingly very little difference in most.
If Your fuel system is dirty, You've got more problems than an 8 oz bottle is gonna fix.
These so called "OEM approved" products should read "Kickback Paid"
Every Refinery in the Country adds an additive package to the fuel You buy, Federally mandated. Some are slightly different than others, but there's surprisingly very little difference in most.
If Your fuel system is dirty, You've got more problems than an 8 oz bottle is gonna fix.
These so called "OEM approved" products should read "Kickback Paid"
#43
Umm.. You Guy's do know that Fuel Additives are a multi million dollar SCAM, Right?
Every Refinery in the Country adds an additive package to the fuel You buy, Federally mandated. Some are slightly different than others, but there's surprisingly very little difference in most.
If Your fuel system is dirty, You've got more problems than an 8 oz bottle is gonna fix.
These so called "OEM approved" products should read "Kickback Paid"
Every Refinery in the Country adds an additive package to the fuel You buy, Federally mandated. Some are slightly different than others, but there's surprisingly very little difference in most.
If Your fuel system is dirty, You've got more problems than an 8 oz bottle is gonna fix.
These so called "OEM approved" products should read "Kickback Paid"
#44
Umm.. You Guy's do know that Fuel Additives are a multi million dollar SCAM, Right?
Every Refinery in the Country adds an additive package to the fuel You buy, Federally mandated. Some are slightly different than others, but there's surprisingly very little difference in most.
If Your fuel system is dirty, You've got more problems than an 8 oz bottle is gonna fix.
These so called "OEM approved" products should read "Kickback Paid"
Every Refinery in the Country adds an additive package to the fuel You buy, Federally mandated. Some are slightly different than others, but there's surprisingly very little difference in most.
If Your fuel system is dirty, You've got more problems than an 8 oz bottle is gonna fix.
These so called "OEM approved" products should read "Kickback Paid"
While most majors DO add cleaners and there are laws governing how much you must add IF you are going to advertise such; these cleaners cost money and the majors are into profit. The less they can add, the more profit.
Most of the additive cleaners are merely introducing the same cleaners in a highly concentrated form to clean stubborn deposits.
I agree using a better fuel is helpful.
That being said, you generally get what you pay for.
Personal experience has led me to use Seafoam for occasional cleaning and I get Lucas for free.
(I do use their diesel additive)
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