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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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The motor did rotate when you pressurized #2 ??

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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
The motor did rotate when you pressurized #2 ??

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Yes sir, not a lot, but it definitely moved the piston down, maybe a quarter of a turn? And it had all the other Glow plugs in it when I did that, so it was fighting compression
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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Update:

Well, my compression tester took a crap after testing one cylinder, #2 registered 100#...

So I took the opportunity to pressurize #2 with all the glow plugs out...

Air came rushing out of #4 Glow Plug hole...

SO if I am thinking clearly, the only answer is a blown head gasket between #2 & #4 correct?

I think 87crewdually is our winner!!!
 
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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That would be a good assumption!

Regardless of the confusing information ...
Originally Posted by whenry912
Cracked the injectors, all made the engine miss more, but when I cracked #2 the thumping quieted down.
With a head gasket blown between 2&4 ... Cracking #4 would have made changes as well!

Anytime you have two cylinders side by side with issues, head gasket is a good assumption ...

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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Sorry about the confusing info, I can only report what I observed hahhah...
Cracking any injector made the motor run rougher, cracking #2 made it rougher but the loud intake knock went away...

Theory...

#2 fires, blows combustion into #4 which has the intake valve open at that moment... when #2 is disabled, no combustion so much quieter knock?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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You were listening to the huff, not all the other sounds.

Same as when you pressurized the cylinders the first time ...

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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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update

Well, the verdict is in...

Blown fire rings on head gasket between Cylinders #2 and #4.

Next item for debate...

When I pulled the injectors, these 2 cylinders injectors were very wet...

SO, did the weeping injectors cause the head gasket failure or did the failure make the injectors weep?

Have all new injectors to install from Pensicola Diesel, just in case
 
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by whenry912
Well, the verdict is in...

Blown fire rings on head gasket between Cylinders #2 and #4.

Next item for debate...

When I pulled the injectors, these 2 cylinders injectors were very wet...

SO, did the weeping injectors cause the head gasket failure or did the failure make the injectors weep?

Have all new injectors to install from Pensicola Diesel, just in case

Gee really.

The reason for the injectors being wet is because there wasn't enough atomization to burn the fuel so the injectors were just squirting fuel, swirling it around and then the unburnt fuel was going elsewhere like out the exhaust port and to the neighboring cylinder.

Glad you got it figured, just take your time on reassembly. Clean is everything when putting the heads back on.
 
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I finished the day once with a head gasket blown between 2 cyl and then drove it about 70 miles home. This was on a 427 gas rig and I thought I probably had a couple bad plugs or wires. When I pulled the head the air pressure had cut the head and the block enough that niether was usable.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 87crewdually
Gee really.

The reason for the injectors being wet is because there wasn't enough atomization to burn the fuel so the injectors were just squirting fuel, swirling it around and then the unburnt fuel was going elsewhere like out the exhaust port and to the neighboring cylinder.

Glad you got it figured, just take your time on reassembly. Clean is everything when putting the heads back on.

Yah, I know about the who cleanliness thing, it's tough to be perfect doing the job in-truck, but I did the other side already, so I have a bit of experience...

Thanks all for the input, I will let y'all know how she turns out
 
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