I took the power steering pump off the '77 f150, but I'm just not seeing how it's a direct bolt on to my '66 f100. Sure I'll need the pulleys off the harmonic balancer on the donor, but I just don't see how it bolts up to the 352. I should've taken pics of the donor before I tore it down. I've been busy and have forgotten how it looked. So, does a power steering pump off a '77 f150 w/400 engine simply bolt up to '66 f100 w/352?

I've ordered some parts books from HIPO, but I haven't received them yet. The books should give me some good pictures and diagrams.

I might just get a new rag joint and a larger diameter steering wheel for now and use the old armstrong steering. I haven't removed the steering box from my '66 yet. I'm dying to drive my new toy.

 

Bummer! a 400 engine is nothing like a 352, what you need is a PS bracket and pump from a 352 along with the pullys the PS Box will bolt up just fine... but you do know that you will need to mod the 66 column or use the column from the parts truck.

 

im planning on doing this too. so basically he and i will need

1. power steering pump
2. steering gear box
3. lines
4. cooler
5. steering coulum
6. ??drivers engine mount??
7. pully and belts
8. crank pully
9. pump brackets

am i missing anything? not educated in this swap yet. would appreciate it if someone would lend a hand to let me know. i know its possible i just dont know all the odds and ends i would need.

 

Hmmm, I do believe it was recommended to you earlier to buy a 73-76 donor truck so you would have all the correct needed parts.

You're grown & I could care less where you get your parts from, but I do know how to keep this kind of post off FTE, but you have to do your part.




John

 

Well, I'll be looking for a 352 then. I was expecting to have to modify the steering column. Thanks

 

I could've sworn that anything off a '73 to '79 would fit.

 

i dont know if you mean him or me but i dont have the space for a parts truck as i am at an appartment and my truck is stored at my parents house. i believe i have been told that before but my answer is still the same. and i dont mean to start raising hell with you john but if you dont have anything nice to say or help to contribute then there is not much reason why i should pay any attention to your posting. plus other people are out there like me and are wondering what parts they need because they cant buy a parts truck. im sure someone out there wants to know exactly what is needed for this swap.

 

Well, I see now that I should've bought a donor truck with FE engine, which were discontinued in '76.

Ok, I made a mistake. So, now I'll move on. I sure have that icky feeling in my stomach, though.

Questions: Will my NP 235 bellhousing bolt up to 400? If so, maybe I'll just have the 400 rebuilt and swap, IF the 400 is a simple swap. Anybody know? Please, no snide answers - not everybody has a PHD in Fordology.

Thanks, all.

 

Well, about the bellhousing.... no, i dont think it would bolt up.

The 400 will work, all you need are the engine stands/metal perches that bolts to the crossmember-frame. but i would look around for the parts you want for your project and fund them by selling the parts you do not need.

 

Bub, All I can do is lead you to water, I can't make you drink. I have done several of these, recommended to hundreds the best way. It's always the folk that seem to think they have a better way that come back when they can't make it work and wonder why.

You can raise all the hell you want, go for it.





John

 

The P/S pump is essentially the same, uses the same seal kit and has a steel reservoir:

1965/77 Passenger Cars (except w/Hydroboost) / 1966/77 F100/350's / 1972/77 Bronco's.

The mounting brackets may/may not be the same.

Mounting brackets used with 1968/76 F100/350's w/360/390 engines will bolt onto 1965/67 F100/350's w/352's.

Ditto 1965/71 352/390 Paasenger Cars.

There is no such thing as specific P/S pump mounting brackets for F100/350's w/352/360/390 engines...they used the same ones as 1965/71 352/390 Passenger Cars.

Bottom line: The P/S pump from the 1977 F150 400 will work, the brackets will not work, the harmonic balancer pulleys will not work PERIOD! They won't even bolt on.

You will need an outer harmonic balancer pulley from a: 1960/67 352/390 Passenger Car or 1965/67 F100/350 352. 1968: Ford changed the harmonic balancer on FE engines...the pulleys have a different bolt pattern.

Pulleys from any other engine will not work.

IF the P/S pump has a plastic reservoir = Ford changed the P/S pump on everything in 1978 (except Econolines).

The 1978 and newer P/S pump will not work on previous years. The 1978 and newer P/S hoses connect to it with quick disconnect fittings, the brackets from earlier years will not work with this pump.

 

Great info! That makes things easier. Thanks.

 

How many slots does the crank pulley have for trucks with power steering? Also, will a steering column from a F100 work with a F250? I noticed my 66 at one time had either AC or PS. There is a bracket just sitting there and I noticed what looked like an idler pulley as well. Hmmm.....wouldn't it be nice if it was once a Power steering truck. Definately no power brakes.

I don't suppose you have a parts list for power brakes do you? Thanks for the help!

Is this a PS or manual steering box? I just can't tell.

 

Ummm dose it have holes for p/s hoses?

 

Unfortunately it is hailing out and the car port is starting to flood a bit, guess I will check later. I thought someone might know from the look of it if it was manual or power.